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bill entirely, or alter it as our then cir- could not order in, or even pass such a cumstances may render neceffary. But bill, without any such prerious confent: I can see no impropriety in our passing and I hope no such thing will ever be such a bill, even whilft our hopes of contended for in this kingdom: for epeace are depending; because it is not very property vested in the crown by proposed to enact, that the property of our constitution, is so vested in trust for any of the prizes taken, or to be taken, the use of the public; and either house thall be vested in the captors, until after of parliament may, without the previous a declaration of war ; consequently if the consent of the crown, not only inquire bill should be passed, and afterwards a into the application of it, but may pupeace hould ensue, before any declara- nish those ministers who have, in their tion of war, that part of the bill could respective departments, advised or conhave no effect, with regard to the pro- sented to any misapplication. Surely, perty or disposal of the prizes, but would then, a fortiori, a bill for the applicahave a considerable effect with regard tion may, without any previous consent, to the increase of their number, and be ordered in and passed by either house with regard to the enabling us to pre- of parliament, though it cannot obtain pare for war, upon which alone our the force or effect of a law without the hopes of an honourable peace can be royal affent. By the royal afsent's be. well founded; for such a peace can ne. ing necessary for the passing of every ver be obtained by fawning and crin. bill into a law, the rights of the crown ging, but by fhewing, that we are as are suficiently guarded ; and the parliaready to appear sword in hand, as we ment neither can, nor, I hope, will eare to bully and threaten that we will. ver attempt to dispose of any property

I have now, I hope, Sir, answered vested in the crown, without the royal all the arguments made use of by the affent; therefore no wife and faithful Hon. and learned gentleman againit this minister will ever infift upon a previous motion. But before I sit down, I muft consent being neceffary, before such a take notice of a very extraordinary doc- bill can be passed by either house of partrine that has been broached by another liament; much less will Hon. gentleman upon this occasion. previous consent being necessary, before He was pleased to tell us, that the pro: leave be given by this house to bring in perty of all the thips already taken is fuch a bill; and consequently, without vested in the crown, and that conse- enlarging any further upon the subject, quently we cannot order in a bill for I believe I may conclude with decla. difpofing of that property, without the ring, that I shall most heartily give my previous consent of the crown, fignified affirmative to the previous question, and to us by message. This, Sir, is a doc- my vote for leave to bring in the bill trine which I wish had not been men- which the Noble Lord has been pleased tioned upon this occafion. It has al- to propose. [xvi. 123, 74.] ready saised a flame in a neighbouring [This Journal to be continued.] kingdom, and, if ever infiited on, it will raise a flame in this. true, chat our Kings have of late been

Abuses in the villualling. fo gracious as to fignify by message their Mr URBAN, confent, as often as any bill was, or was to be brought in, by which the


Pamphlet has lately been publishproperty of the crown might be affect- navy mens advocate, dedicated to Wiled; and this house could never, in com. liam Beckford, Efq; Alderman of Lonmon decency, refuse to accept of such don, and member for that city, which a gracious message when it was offered : contains such a charge against the perbut I believe it has never yet been pre- fons who have been concerned in victended, that such a previous confent was tualling the royal navy, as no man who absolutely neceffary, or that this house is not hackneyed in the vilest practices,


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and become callous by habitual villany, the weather is dry. By the wet the can read without the utmost astonishment flesh is rendered soft and flabby; and and indignation. If the charge is false, being divested of its falt, it begins to dethe author deserves exemplary punish- cay. By the action of the wind and sun, ment, for disgracing his country, by ini- the juices are exhausted, and the flesh puting to those who have been appoint- is left rusty, and unwholesome. Calks ed trustees of the public, such treachery that are brought to be refilled, are laid as is complicated with almost every o- down go or 100 together to drain; and ther crime that can degrade human na- it often happens, that the bung-hole beture. If it be true, another crime yet ing stopped by a piece of Aesh, the stinko greater will become poslible; that of ing brine does not run out. It also ofluffering the delinquents to escape with ten happens, that if the bung-hole is impunity : but from such a crime the clear, the stinking bloody brine in the mercy of the Almighty will certainly drains (wells so high as to be over the deliver us, if we are not devoted by his bung-hole, the well into which they justice to irrevocable destruction. discharge themselves not being proper

It is, however, of the utmost import- ly emptied ; so that instead of draining, ance, that the public, to whom the ac- they take in the filthy contents of these cuser has now appealed, after having in channels. They are notwithstanding vain-solicited to be heard by others, turned up without examination, and fillshould take cognisance of the affair. ed with pickle ; in consequence of which, And for this reason the following sum. the foul bloody brine that frequently remary is sent you, which will make it mains in them, renders the flesh putrid, more generally known than it could be and gives it a rank smell, The wells by the original publication.

out of which the pickle is made, are William Thompson, the author of not leaded, nor are they emptied or this pamphlet, being employed as an cleansed; so that the timber stinks beunder-cooper in the pickle-yard of the yond the power of remedy: and the victualling-office, made several repre. brine they contain is polluted with the sentations, in the year 1745, to the late filth of pot-scummings, urine, and oMr Revel, of the badness of the flesh ther nastiness of various kinds; and has parç of the stores; and offered to show often been known to. putrify in the whence this evil arose, and how it might backs even before it has been used. be remedied.

The offals are suffered to remain in the By Mr Revel he was referred to Mr slaughter-houses till they yield an intoHl; to whom he gave the follow. lerable stench; and fo putrify the air, ing account.

that the fresh-killed carcases of the oxen The dirt of the labourers shoes is suf- and hogs are manifestly affected by it, fered to mix with the flesh; and when even before they are cold, they are mistaken in their tale, it is Thus far the accusation extended only turned out upon a dirty floor, and much to faults by which no money was got, nastiness shovelled up with it.

committed by poor labourers, who had The casks are not always well made, no power to screen themselves, or baffle nor of found timber; the hoops are their accuser. The commissioners were sometimes mouldy; and the casks are willing these enormities should be rectifrequently putrid, foul, and stinking, fied, and therefore appointed Thompbesmeared with dirt, - blood, and the son, who had proposed such methods as excrements of oxen and hogs.

were thought effectual, to be supervisor When they are filled with flesh, they of the cooperage and flesh stores, and are often suffered to stand exposed to whatever related to the pickling, cutthe weather for months before they are ting, and packing of flesh. coopered; so that they are sodden by But the same zeal and diligence which rain or {now, when the weather is wet, enabled and inclined Thompson to make and Trunk by the wind and fun when these complaints, that affected only laVOL. XIX.

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bourers and falters, also inclined and their men refused to cut and salt what enabled him to give such an account to was not fit for service, directed them, as the victualling board, of the causes of their bufiness, to cut and salt what was the badness of provisions, which had brought to them, and ask no questions. been loudly complained of by the admi. Some hogs having been taken notice ralty-board, as affected persons of su- of by one Lloyd, even while they were perior influence and power: they there. driving, as unfit for service, he was call. fore, u pon pretence that these complaints ed to the board to give his reasons; and were founded in great measure upon de- though his reasons were irrefragable, and fects that had arisen from neglect of du. though he declared to the board, that ty, discharged from their employment if the flesh of these hogs took salt, he three of the oldest coopers in the yard, would himself submit to be falted; yet and with them Mr Thompson. By this these very hogs were killed and falted. step, a dangerous person was removed The contracts for furnishing hogs are from farther opportunity of getting ma. made by distillers, but the flesh of hogs terials for new remonftrances; and an fed by distillers is loose and spongy; it appearance was made of taking a pro- is indeed rather sluth and blubber than per ftep upon a just complaint.

and while it is under the hands Thompson in vain remonftrated, that of the randers and meffers, a stinking oil the stores of which complaint had been has been seen to fly up to the beams of made, were packed at least a year before the cutting-house. These hogs frequenthe was appointed to fopervise, and in- ly stink while they are flaughtering; and treated in vain, by repeated applica. last year 800 of them were found stinktions in writing, to be restored. He ing as soon as they were dead. Sows applied to the Lords of the Admiralty are often killed, when so near the time with as little fuccess : he was told they of farrowing, that when their bellies believed the victualling-board to have have been ripped, the pigs have fallen done very right in discharging him, and out alive ; fome of these pigs have been would have nothing to say to him. He reared by hand, fome thrown to rot on was, however, more successful in his ap- the dunghill

, and the loose flabby felh plication to private gentlemen, and was of the low falted for the navy. at length sent with a message from the The hogs furnished by contracting dilate Hon. James Brudenell, Esq; to stillers, are often fo difeased with the Thomas Bron, Esq; requesting him, murrain or cough, that they cannot either by word or writing, to aflign the stand to feed; consequently not being true reason why he was discharged ; and able to walk, they are sent to the vicB--ton rising from table, and clapping tualling office in waggons, and there his hand upon Thompson's shoulder, ex. slaughtered, falted, packed, coopered, preffed himself to this effect, and as near- and pickled. The skins of fome have ly in these words as Thompson, who at- been covered with scabs and blotches : tests them upon oath, can remember. these, instead of being rejected, have

“ My dear Thompson, I do not think been fead, to conceal their condition. you was in fault; none of us think you That these carcases, fo deficient in was in fault; but the thing hangs hard. flesh, may come up nearer to the proper er upon us than it does upon you. We weight, they are killed, by firit ftun. are all of us men of fortune, and men ning them with a bludgeon, and then of place, subject to be called upon be slightly wounding them in the neck to fore the Lords of the Admiralty, and produce an appearance of blood; they before the parliament ; to prevent which, are then thrown into a copper of scald. we thought it was better for you to lose ing water, where being recovered from your employment than we our places.” the blow, they scream and struggle,

The sum of the several charges till being half (calded, and half drownbrought by Thompson, is this: ed, they die; the flesh thus full of vital The overseers of the flesh-ftores, when juices, which should have been drained


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He objected against fixteen quarters weighed, pickled, packed, and given of groats furnished by one Pew a con. to our sailors for food.

tractor, which were very tool aod bad, The oxen furnished by the contract- and which Pew had attempted to conors, are in general Lincolnshire steers, ceal, by fraudulently putting about half not ftalled, as the service requires, but a bushel of good groats at the top of en grased, after having been worked as very cak. long as the contractor thinks proper.

The like fraud was practised by one They are of a large make, but fo lean, Smith, a contractor. 'Lloyd had rethat a candle being put into the carcase, turned thirty-seven facks of Smith's a glimmering light has been seen through flour, upon which he was opposed at as through a dark lantern : and it has the board by Mr B1 -t, who insisting been known, that 150 of them did not on the goodness of the Acur, produced produce more pieces than 80 that were some good flour from the mouth of the flaughtered in 0. Anne's time. fack; upon which Lloyd immediately

To make good as far as possible the demonstrated the justness of his comdeficiencies of flesh, the same method is plaint, by cutting open the bottom of used with the oxen as with the hogs. the same fack, and producing such flour They are not half blooded nor dressed. as was not fit for use. When the hide is stripped off, they are Upon examining the bread at the dragged through their own filth, and King's mills, he daily found large quan, hung up for falting. Many oxen have tities of duft or alhes put into the bags also been salted that died of themselves. amongst it; and upon his desiring it Several eminent butchers being brought might be cleaned, he was answered by by the late Mr Guy, to examine fome the men, that they were to mind their oxen which he refused to falt; they all master Mr T-ghg-d's orders, and agreed that they were not fit for sea. so would not do it. ftores : notwithstanding which, they The grinder keeps his mill so rough, were falted, and sent as sea-stores on that all the profit of the corn goes into board the royal navy:

the bran. Thus far Thompson speaks princi. The storekeepers forbid the men to pally upon his own knowledge, and mind any thing he said, and he was orhas attested the facts upon oath. The dered by Mes. H--ll and R-1, to following particulars relating to the dry give grains of allowance to the contractors, stores, are sworn by one Lloyd, late in. if he had not a mind to be discharged. fpector of dry stores at the victualling-Lloyd not being willing to give grains office in London.

of allowance, loon after incurred the After he had objected to meal, flour, punishment that had been threatened, groats, and other stores, as foul and un- and was discharged from his employwholesome, they were frequently bar- ment. relled up

Thompson remarks, that this admoOne hundred and fifty quarters of un- nition of the commissioners, to give grains wholesome pease, were by direction of allowance to contractors, affords too barrelled and put on board, which Lloyd much reason to suspect, that the conafterwards got a sample of, and procu- tractors are not the only gainers by the red to be brought back.

fraud they practise; especially as comThirty-fix barrels of rice that were missioners have amassed in a short time full of maggots, were by direction bare the sum of 300,000l. which is more relled off, bus stopped by Lloyd; who, than their whole salary would amount to when the affair was brought before the in 300 years. commissioners, and he produced samples The same enormities are practised at of the bad rice, was told that he must the vicłualling-offices of the oue-ports. have collected them somewhere else; Four men at Portsmouth, have, upon and instead of admitting his complaint, oath, attested the following facts. impeached his veracity.



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That they have been frequently obli- all the ships in that port for the imporged to kill and salt meally hogs, and tant service recommended to him. This bull stags, for sea-stores.

letter was soon followed by another, That one L-a contractor, fre. mentioning the leak's being stopped, quently obliged them to weigh the scull, and that five fail of ships were ready to pieces of oxen and hogs, and kidney-fat, put to sea as foon as orders were given to make up deficiencies of weight, and for that purpose. Why, instead of bewhen the weight has notwithstanding ing sent on this momentous expedition, been deficient, he has put his foot into these several ships were directed to prothe scale to weigh it down.

ceed to Spithead, and the Admiral, That hogs have frequently been salt- who had been so active and vigilant in ed after being found dead in the fties, forwarding the preparations to return to and frequently weighed with only the sea, discharged from that service, with feet cut off

, that they might make weight. leave to return to town; and why this If these facts can be supported by in- important cruise, where there might dubitable testimony, it will be no longer have been an opportunity of striking difficult to guess why so many more die some considerable blow, was postponed, on board our men of war in a month's is not easy to discern, unless with a concruise, than on board an East-Indiaman tracted view of serving a relation ; too during the whole voyage; and a better mean a supposition, when the interest remedy against the scurvy may easily be of a whole community was concerned. applied, than any that has


However, it was well known, that the posed by those, who being ignorant of court-martial would detain Mr Wthe true cause, have argued from false for some time; and surely in that fituadata, and produced many an ingenious tion an able and spirited admiral fhould hypothesis, which experience has shewn not have been superseded, more partito be erroneous.

cularly as he could have put to sea imIt is but just to add, that Thompson makes mediately as the service required. honourable mention of Mr Henry Delham, the Whatever was the cause of this extrapresent secretary of the victualling-office; from ordinary delay, an enterprise which rewhom he declares at the same time, that he neither has received, nor expects to receive any fa- itand still till the month of February; and

quired instant execution, was made to Gent. Mag. March 1757.

even then the admiral that was destined A POLITICAL ANECDOTE. for it, waited, though the wind was fair, Ome time in December last, letters for an answer to a most extraordinary

of intelligence were dispatched to letter, and then failed upon compulfion. the Admiral (Kn-s] who then com

Some account of the marine society. manded our fleet in the Bay, of the de. stination of two squadrons of the enemy;

N order to make an account of the

views of this society generally underone, conlisting of six ships of war, for food, it is neceflary to premise, that the the coast of Guinea; and the other, of officers of every ship of war which car. five or fix ships, to convoy

their out

ries 60 ward bound trade; together with an ac.

guns and 400 men, have a right count of some French East Indiamen

to carry thirty servants, and to receive homeward bound. In the same monch

their wages, which wages are confider

of the officer's pay. the Admiral received this information, and immediately dispatched the Dover

These servants are generally boys be. to acquaint Com. Howe with all these

tween thirteen years of age and eighcircumstances, being obliged himself to full growth, as they can then rank as

teen; for when they are at or near their make the best of his way to Plymouth feamen, and receive pay in that class, it to stop a leak. om thence he wrote to the higher powers, to inform them

is not to be supposed they will be conof the above necesity of his return, and tent to enter on board as an officer's seralso of the diminution of his squadron, vant, for fifty shillings 2-year, which is

their stated wages. proposing at the same time to get ready




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