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of his writings, comments on the colonies of America, came into the possession of my family. But I am at a loss to find out of what line of the Montgomerie family he was. To this end I would esteem any information from you that may direct me where to investigate. I have searched the Historical Society's works on New York, and most of the references in the British Museum, but with no result.

Permit me also to inquire where I may be able to obtain a copy of a folio work bound in richly decorated russia, illustrated in colours, styled, I think, "Portraits of the Montgomerie Family," or "Montgomerie Portrait Gallery." I once saw such a work. L. MORTON MONTGOMERIE.

"GO TO."-What is the meaning of this ejacula- | tion or expletive? In Gen. xi. 3, 4, it is a call of encouragement; but in all other Scriptures where our translators have used it, it is a sort of challenge. Dogberry says:-"A rich fellow enough, go to!"-defying contradiction.

Sir E. Coke says to Sir Walter Raleigh:-"Go to; I will lay thee upon thy back for the confidentest traitor that ever came to a bar."

Sir Nicholas Throckmorton, being tried for high treason at Guildhall, 1554, 1st Mary, offended his judges by suggesting "that they were thinking long for their diner." Sir R. Southwell replied:"M. Throckmorton, this talke need not; we know what we have to do, and you would teach us our duties, you hurt your mater. Go to, go to !" "Go to" is out of use, but I have heard" Now then" used in a similar way. A person asserting something which another disbelieves or doubts, interposes "Now then" ever and anon during his story or argument. W. G.

OLD ROMAN INSCRIPTION.-In repairing the roof of an old house at Bubbenhall, near Leamington, a quantity of Roman tiles were removed, on seven of which the appended inscription was plainly visible. The house is said to be more than two hundred years old, and its roof had evidently been built of these ancient tiles, which, from their number, had doubtless been found in the neighbourhood. Tradition is silent respecting the occupation by the Romans of the spot. It is, however, not far from the Fossway. Perhaps some of your readers can throw light on the name of the cohort of which L. Æmilius Salvianus was tribune.

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WILLIAM HERBERT, THE TRANSLATOR OF DR. FEASLEY'S "ANCILLA PIETATIS."-Who was the Guillaume Herbert' who translated Feasley's well-known book into French? As he dedicated his work (inappropriately enough surely) to the Earl of Montgomery, it is probable that he was a member of the family. Was he the Herbert who afterwards published the Quadripartite Devotions? This translation of Herbert's affords a good illustration of the shortcoming of the ordinary works of bibliographical reference. There is no mention of it in Brunet, Watt, or Lowndes. C. ELLIOT Browne.

stations. Can it be ora, Lat., in the sense of boundary?

"ORE" is a local name found near Roman

HYDE CLARKE.

LADY JANE GREY.-What is the date-day and month-of Lady Jane Grey's birth? A. V. P.

[George Howard, in Lady Jane Grey and her Times, says that the birth took place at Bradgate, in Leicestershire," as generally believed, in the year 1537, but the precise date is uncertain, the destruction of the monasrecords of that nature."] teries and church registers having caused the loss of all

DANIEL'S "RURAL SPORTS."-Who was the Rev. Wm. B. Daniel, author of the above book, 3 vols., 4to., 1807? The work is dedicated to J. Holden Strutt, Esq., M.P. It treats at great length on hunting, shooting, and fishing, and is profusely and beautifully illustrated with engravings by Scott after Gilpin, Chalon, and other celebrated artists. JOHN PAGET.

A CARDIGANSHIRE BELIEF.-The following appears in the Cambrian News of June 1:

"A remarkable case was investigated on Tuesday, by Dr. John Rowland, at a farmhouse about four miles from Tregaron. A head servant girl, having no reasons, found early on Monday morning hanging by the neck as far as the evidence goes, for committing suicide, was from a bing in an outhouse. The inquest, which was adjourned for a post-mortem examination to be made, elicited the singular belief of the neighbours that none but a freeholder or a policeman could cut down the

deceased."

I know North Wales pretty well, but this is a
new article of belief to me. Is it at all general in
South Wales?
A. R.

Croeswylan, Oswestry.

CORNELIUS HALLEN died at Stourbridge in 1680, leaving a family. He was connected with the iron business established by Mr. Foley, who brought over Germans to assist him (see Smiles's History of the Iron Trade). A family of Hallen,

or Von der Hallen, has property near Bremen,
North Germany. In this family Cornelius is a
name in use. The present head of this family can
give no information. Are there any official pedi-
grees or registers of grants of arms which would
help me to trace the manifest connexion between
the two families? I should be glad to correspond
with any brother genealogist and Mason who would
help me. The Von der Hallen crest is a salamander
rising from flames, suggestive of the iron trade in
which probably our ancestors were engaged in
Germany.
A. W. Hallen, M.A.

Alloa, N.B.

EDWARD WHALLEY, THE REGICIDE.-Where and when was he born, and where is the latest and fullest information respecting him to be found? Of course I know what Noble has said of him in both his works.

F.S.A. PAULET PEDIGREE. Will HERMENTRUDE kindly throw some light, from her rich stores of information, on some obscurities of the Paulet pedigree? Sir John Paulet, grandson of Sir John and Constance de Poynings, is said to have married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William Paulet. Was the said Elizabeth one of the four daughters of Sir William by Elizabeth Deneband, the heiress of Hinton St. George? and was her brother, Sir Amias Paulet, the father of Christina, who became the wife of Sir William Martin, of Athelhampton? H. W. New Univ. Club.

D. JOHANNA DE BLOIS, PAINTED BY VANDYCK. -Who was she? I have an engraving of her: "An. Van Dyck pinxit, Petr. de Tode sculpsit, Gillis. Hendricx excudit." YRAM.

GEORGE GREIVE, born at Newcastle (on Tyne ?) in 1748, accused Madame du Barry before the Revolutionary tribunal, and styled himself" homme de lettres." What works did he publish?

THUS.

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As if an art could be more practical
Than that which, showing what men should be,

Describes the mental model of a world

After which it were well that ours were fashioned."

I can only remember the above fragments. I think the
of a century ago.
is in a drama which was published some quarter
J. J. P.

passage

Replies.

PENZANCE. In the Autobiographical Recollections of Sir John Bowring, 1877, the author, in the section entitled "Election Experiences," which a foot-note states was written in 1861, says, "I was inquiring into my chances of return for Penzance" (p. 79). Was Penzance ever a parliamentary borough? I observe that the paragraph SCOTT FAMILY: THE PARENTAGE OF ARCHin which the sentence quoted occurs has been copied into an article in the Athenæum of June 30, 1877, p. 825. WM. PENGELLY. Torquay.

DAMEROSE. In an old deed, temp. Edward III., mention is made of two meadows, called by the names of Damerosehay and Le Pusshay. I think the former part of each word is the name of a flower, and I solicit the aid of "N. & Q." Could

BISHOP ROTHERHAM.

(5th S. vii. 89, 139, 158, 292, 330, 375, 416, 470, 490, 509.)

In reviewing the whole that has been written on the above subject, I much fear that very little has been effected towards the settlement of the vexed question as to the patronymic of this celebrated prelate. Commentators do not deny that he was recognized in all public documents, after the time

of his early preferment in Kent, under the name of Rotherham; which town the archbishop himself is at pains to explain, in his will, was the place of his birth, but he does not with equal care and pride state that he was born of parents of that name or any other. It is equally conceded-1. That his arms (probably assumed with the name of Rotherham) were Vert, three bucks or stags trippant or; 2. That the Scotts of Ecclesfield, his kinsmen, bore (doubtless from the archbishop) precisely the same arms, which the heralds of that day would not have permitted except by legal adoption or right, a contrary course being then penal, and heralds exacting; 3. That the arms of Rotherham of Farley, Beds (John Rotherham, the brother of the archbishop, being head of this family), are, according to Burke (our first authority), in his General Armoury, stated to be the same as the archbishop's and those of the family of Scott of Ecclesfield, his kinsmen, plus a bend sinister argent, which, in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, denoted illegitimacy. This fact is very suggestive to those who have leisure to follow it out to its origin; and to my mind, taken in connexion with the probably studious avoidance of all mention of his parents and their names in the archbishop's will (which in this respect, I again repeat, is puzzling and unsatisfactory), may be the key to the whole question.

The archbishop, in his will, states, "because I was born in the same town [Rotherham], and so at that same place was born into the world, and also born again by the holy bath flowing from the side of Jesus"; but he fails to state that he likewise gloried in the name of Rotherham, his

ancestors'.

There are no post obits or trentals in his will in favour of his parents, the only names mentioned being "John Rotherham, my brother," and his kinsmen or cousins, the Scotts. These individuals, I contend, adopted the assumed name and arms, or arms alone, of the archbishop in respect of property which, in their lifetime or afterward, came to them through the patronage of the prelate. Such a theory would be in accordance with practice

then as now.

The pedigree that Vincent has advanced, that the archbishop was the son of Sir Thomas Rotherham, Knt., has always been disputed, and will be until the will of Sir Thomas, or better evidence of his existence, is brought forward in direct proof. John Rotherham, of Someries and Farley, the Master of the Guild of Luton when Thomas Rotherham was Bishop of Lincoln, in 1475, is the first I can trace of that name in Luton. His sons afterwards occur in Luton and Kent, and one of them was at the Field of the Cloth of Gold with Henry VIII., in personal attendance on him. Until the existence of Sir Thomas Rotherham of the Vincent pedigree is established, and until the

practice of ecclesiastics in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries adopting the names of places of their birth or preferment on their becoming mortui sæculo is established as a popular error, I must contend again that the host of commentators on the life and biography of this dignitary will again and again be of opinion that the name of Rotherham was merely assumed, whatever conclusion they may arrive at as to his real patronymic or the precise family to which he belonged. Notwithstanding that difficulties may and do exist in adducing satisfactory evidence that he belonged to either of the families of Scott of Ecclesfield or of Scotshall, in Kent,-but for which fact heralds and commentators of as good repute as Mr. Vincent have vouched, I again suggest that, as the arms of the Scotts of Ecclesfield are the same substantially as those of the Rotherhams of Luton, and these such as have been attributed to the archbishop, the fact, otherwise inexplicable, points to the conclusion of an identity of origin of both Scotts of Ecclesfield and Rotherham families. Finally, as regards the arms (stated by Willement to have been, sixty years ago, in a dilapidated condition, and which he attributed to Archbishop Rotherham) which were carved in stone on the roof of the crypt of Canterbury Cathedral, and impaled or impaling the see of York, viz. three wheels gules. I repeat that it was impossible for Willement to have done more than guess at the tincture or charges, as I personally, with the sanction of the authorities, by means of a scaffold, some years ago inspected the same, and whilst still of opinion that the charge suggested wheels or catherine wheels, so dilapidated were the bosses in that portion of the cathedral, it was impossible to come to the conclusion that the charges were stags or roebucks. MR. GREENSTREET, respecting this doubt, states, or suggests, that the wheels in question were those of the family of Roet (Catherine Swinford, third wife of John of Gaunt, being a daughter of Sir Payne Roet); but allow me to ask in what way the arms of Roet or Swinford could heraldically be connected with either of the sees of Canterbury or York. So far as the catherine wheel is concerned, this cognizance of the Scotshall family figures on the roof of the Martyrdom (temp. Edw. IV.), and formerly on the beautiful gate of Christchurch at the entrance of the cathedral, traditionally asserted to have been erected at the cost of six Kentish knights, of whom Sir William Scotte, Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports and Governor of Dover Castle, was one. Apologizing for having occupied so much of your space, and I fear to so little purpose, I now conclude. JAMES RENAT Scott, F.S.A. Clevelands, Walthamstow.

Before this matter is dropped, would those who have lately so ably corrected the errors that have

been for so long a time indulged in concerning the des chansons, etc.; mais on a découvert depuis quelques archbishop's parentage also correct what appears jours un ouvrage de sa façon, qui, quoique imprimé, to me to be another error? In Hunter's Hallam- n'avait point paru: c'est un livre intitulé Les Mours du Siècle, en Dialogues. Il est dans le goût du Portier des shire, Gatty's edition, p. 442, it is stated, on the Chartreux. Ce vieux libertin s'est délecté à faire cette authority of Richard St. George, Norroy King-at-production licencieuse. Il n'y en a que trois exemplaires Un d'eux est Arms, that John and Richard Scott, of Ecclesfield, existants. Ils étaient sous les scellés. to whom the archbishop left the Barnes Hall and orné d'estampes en très-grand nombre; elles sont relaHowsley estates in tail, both died without issue, soin. Il en est qui ont beaucoup de figures, toutes trèstives au sujet, faites exprès et gravées avec le plus grand and that George Scott, a son of the archbishop's finies. Enfin, on estime cet ouvrage, tant par sa rareté brother, succeeded as the right heir. If this was que par le nombre et la perfection des tableaux, plus de the case, surely they would have been Rotherhams, vingt mille écus. Lorsqu'on fit cette découverte, Maand not Scotts, of Barnes Hall. I have searched demoiselle de Vandi, une des héritières, fit un cri effroythe office at York-not very closely, I must allow able, et dit qu'il fallait jeter au feu cette production diabolique. Le commissaire lui représenta, qu'elle ne -for the wills of Scotts of Barnes Hall or Eccles- pouvait disposer seule de cet ouvrage, qu'il fallait le confield, and the earliest I could find was that of cours des autres héritiers; qu'il estimait convenable de Richard Scott, of Barnes Hall, yeoman, dated le remettre sous les scellés, jusqu'à ce qu'on eût pris un July 12, 1556; in it he mentions his sons Nicolas, parti; ce qui fut fait. Ce commissaire a rendu compte de John, William, Richard, and Edward Scott, and cet évènement à M. le lieutenant-général de police, qui l'a renvoyé a M. de Saint-Florentin. Le ministre a expédié his daughter Ann, &c. Edward Scott, his youngest un ordre du roi, qui lui enjoint de s'emparer de cet son, was of Shiregreen, and he made his will ouvrage pour sa Majesté, ce qui a été fait.” Nov. 25, 1602; in it he mentions his nephews, The only copy now known to exist is that to which Richard Watts, of Wortley, Christopher and Bachaumont refers, and which passed from the Roger Scott; his nieces, Ann Goodyson, Jane hands of Louis XV. to those of the Duc de la Thompson, Elizabeth Diconson, and Ann Freeman; Vallière, and was given by him to the Marquis de also his sister Watts, &c. These two wills very Paulmy, as appears by a MS. note of the latter. much enlarge Mr. Hunter's pedigree of Scott. It next appeared in the library of the Prince Elizabeth Diconson and Ann Freeman were the Galitzin, but was not sold at the sale of his books daughters and co-heirs of Thomas Howsley, of in 1825, having, according to Brunet (art. Daïra), Ecclesfield, by Alice Scott his wife, who must been privately sold to a wealthy amateur. In have been sister to Edward Scott, of Shiregreen, 1844 it was included in the catalogue of the thus:library of J. G. (Techener), but was not to be offered at the auction, but to be sold privately at the price of 5,000 francs. It was purchased by Baron J. Pichon, President of the Society of Bibliophiles; and in 1867 it had, according to C. Monselet, become the property of M. F. H. M. Monselet gave an account and analysis of the work in L'Artiste of September 16, 1855, and afterwards reprinted the article in his volume, Galanteries du XVIIIe Siècle. Gustave Brunet wrote a notice of it, with long extracts, in his Fantaisies Bibliographiques (Paris, 1864). Les Tableaux des Maurs was reprinted in 1863 and again in 1867. The last edition was edited by C. Monselet, to whom the prefatory notice of the book and its author is due. Notices of the book will also be found in Brunet, art. Daïra (the title of a dull romance of which M. de la Popelinière was the author); Bibliographie des Ouvrages relatifs à l'Amour, vol. vi., art. Tableaux; Querard, La France Littéraire, art. Leriche de la Popelinière; and in the new edition of Barbier, Dict. des Ouvrages Anonymes, the last part of which, just issued, breaks off in the middle of an article on the Tableaux des Mœurs. RICHD. C. CHRISTIE.

Thomas Howsley, of Alice Scott, mar. at
Ecclesfield and Hows- | Ecclesfield, May 14,
ley Hall,
1560.

Elizabeth Gilbert Dick- Ann Howsley,
Howsley, enson, mar.
dau. and co-
dau. and at Ecclesfield, heir.
co-heir. Feb. 17, 1583.

Gerard Free-
man, mar. at
Ecclesfield,
May 22,1594.

Which of Edward Scott's brothers was father of Christopher and Roger Scott I do not know. From the Ecclesfield registers I find that, June 4, 1559, William Scott married Elizabeth Cutts, a widow; and Oct. 21, 1589, Roger Scott married Ann Man. The baptismal registers are lost prior

to 1599.

Ecclesfield, Sheffield.

ALFRED SCOTT GATTY.

"TABLEAUX DES MEURS DU TEMPS," &c. (5th S. vii. 449.)—It is by no means certain that only one copy of the original edition of this work was printed. Bachaumont is the first writer who mentions the book, and he states that three copies were in existence, and gives the following account of it (Mémoires Secrets, under the date 15 Juillet, 1763):

Manchester.

Only one copy is known to exist of the ori"Tout le monde sait que M. de la Popelinière visait àginal edition printed by Popelinière for his own la célébrité d'auteur; on connaissait de lui des comédies, private use; it is at present in the cabinet of

Mr. H***** of Paris. The book has been reprinted-(1) in 1863 by J. Gay, 12mo., pp. 341; (2) by Poulet-Malassis at Brussels in 1867, 2 vols., 8vo., pp. viii-168 and 170, with a notice by Charles Monselet, and head and tail pieces (culs de lampe) by Félicien Rops; (3) the same edition was issued in 1867, without the illustrations of Rops, but with four etchings designed by Ulm. There exists at present, in the library of a bibliophile in London, a copy of the Poulet-Malassis edition, in which are inserted the original drawings of Ulm, with addition of one unpublished design by him, proofs of the Rops illustrations on India paper, &c. MR. J. BORRAJO should refer to Mémoires de Bachaumont, Bulletin Trimestriel, Liste des Publications, Bibliographie des Ouvrages relatifs à l'Amour, and Galanteries du Dix-huitième Siècle.

APIS.

The following is an extract from Brunet's Manuel du Libraire, fourth edit., art. "Daïra" :"M. de la Popelinière (says Barbier, in his Dictionnaire des Anonymes) avait composé un autre ouvrage intitulé Les Mours du Sicle, en Dialogues, dans le goût du Portier des Chartreux. 11 y en avait un exemplaire orné de peintures excellentes, à la vente des livres de l'auteur: cet exemplaire a été saisi par ordre du roi. V. Les Mémoires Secrets de la République des Lettres du 15 Juillet, 1763. Au surplus il paraît que cet exemplaire, ainsi soustrait aux héritiers de l'auteur, n'a pas été perdu pour tout le monde, puisqu'il fait maintenant partie du cabinet de livres précieux du prince Michel Galitzin, dont le catalogue impr. à Moscou, en 1816, in-8, contient à la page 69 l'article ci-après: Tableau des Moeurs du Tems, dans les Differens Åges de la Vie.-Unique exemplaire, imprimé sous les yeux et par ordre de M. de la Popeliniere, fermier-général, qui en fit aussitôt briser les planches; ouvrage érotique, remarquable par des miniatures de format in-4, de la plus grande fraîcheur et du plus beau faire, représentant des sujets libres: M. de la Popelinière y est peint sous divers points de vue et d'après nature, dans les différens âges de la vie. C'est un vol. gr. in-4, rel. en mar. r.'"

Alexandre-Jean-Joseph Le Riche de la Popelinière, or de la Pouplinière (b. 1692, d. 1762), was one of the richest and wittiest financiers of the last century. He was a fermier-général at the age of twenty-six. He wrote several works of fiction, all of which are licentious, and nearly all anonymous. The best known is Daira, Histoire Orientale, Paris, Simon, 1760, royal 8vo., and Paris, Bauche, 1761, 2 vols., sm. 12mo. HENRI GAUSSERON. Ayr Academy.

THE COMYNS OF BADENOCH AND TYNEDALE (4th S. i. 563, 608; ii. 23, 84, 142, 210, 302.)—At the above references there are several notices of this family. Your fair correspondent HERMENTRUDE then seemed chiefly to desire evidence of the identity of Margaret, the widow of John Comyn, killed at Bannockburn, with Margaret Wake, of Lydal, the wife subsequently of Edmund, Earl of Kent. The fact mentioned by that lady, on the authority of Dugdale (Bar., ii. 93), that

Edmund, Earl of Kent, in 1329 had livery of lands in Tynedale with his wife, as the widow of John Comyn of Badenoch, seems strong evidence of the identity. The Comyns of Badenoch were the only family of the name who held lands in Tynedale. It is rather a curious circumstance that in 1280 there were two John Comyns, full brothers, and sons of a Sir John Comyn, then dead, lord of the manor of Thornton in Tynedale. The elder of these brothers, by an amicable agreement, provided the younger, then under twentyone, in a 201. land in his manor of Thornton. If the younger John died childless under twentyone, the land was to go to his uterine brother Robert, and if the latter died childless the lands reverted to the elder John and his heirs, a money provision being, however, made to Alicia, sister of Robert Comyn, for her marriage portion. These notices are contained in the "Iter of Wark," or the Rolls of the Courts held by the Justices of Alexander III. of Scotland in 1280, for his possessions in Tynedale held of the English Crown—a very interesting document, which deserved rather more elucidation than it has received from being merely printed as a sort of appendix to the Newcastle volume of the Archæological Institute. Sir Francis Palgrave (from whose transcript it was printed) intended to have included it in a second volume of his Illustrations of Scottish History, and he would have given it more prominence than it has received or is likely to receive in its present location. Now, was this junior John Comyn the future antagonist of Bruce? Bruce was in 1280 a child of five or six years old, but John Comyn, junior, was considerably older, for he was in a position to maintain his claims to a part of his father's property. I have lately met with another highly interesting notice of the Comyns. This is an unprinted "Inquisicio❞ held at Lanark, Monday, the morrow of St. Thomas the Martyr, 1303, before the deputies of the Earl of Carrick (Robert Bruce himself), then Sheriff of Lanarkshire under Edward I., regarding the succession and descent of the lands of Dalserf, in Clydesdale. Sir John Comyn, grandfather of the then Sir John (Bruce's rival), gave this land in free marriage with his daughter to Sir Wm. de Galbrathe. Sir Wm. Galbrathe gave it to his son William on his marriage with "Willelma," the daughter of the late Sir William of Duglas. They had four daughters, the eldest of whom, Johanna, married a person named De Cathe, and her son, Bernardus de Cathe, was heir to his mother's fourth part. The then superior lord of Dalserf was Dominus Robertus Constabularius," who had received it from Edward I., as the Inquisicio" states. This property was afterwards given by King Robert to Walter fitz Gilbert, the ancestor of the Dukes of Hamilton, with whom it still remains, in part at least. I have never seen a full pedigree of the Comyns, and therefore these notices

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