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The following regulations shall apply to every buy of 10 and under 12 years of age employed below ground in any mine to which this Act applesM.F. S. Powell.)

Clause 11 (Employment of women, young persons, and children above ground about mines).

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MR. BROWN moved an Amendment in the clause to prevent the employment of girls under 16 on the pitbanks, where they were at present "Attend a schon which the Lords of the Com-ployed in company with married mittee of the Peory Coazell on Education have The practice had decreased sor wy od as giving efficient elementary education Northumberland and Dur to the core of the distret, or, if there be no in full force in other dist school in the district which has been so recognized Staffordshire and Dow or no school so revgnised in which there is room, then any elementary school in the district," Bill would still allow and insert, as a fresh sub-sectionto be employed, regarded as mod no question it results.

"Where in England or Scotland there is within two miles, measured according to the nearest road, from the residence of such boy, or the mine in which he works, a school which is for the time being in receipt of a Grant out of moneys provided by Parliament, or which is for the time being recognized by the Committee of the Privy Council on Education as giving efficient elementary education, and which the boy can attend, such school, unless the teacher is disqualified under this Aot, shall alone be deemed to be a school for the purposes and within the meaning of this Act."

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Amendment proposed, in page 7, line 3, to leave out the words "or contiguous."(Mr. Assheton.)

Question proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Bill."

MR. PEASE said, the words really applied to a garden or other place connected with a public-house; and the provision had been law for some time, and

had caused no inconvenience.

MR. ASSHETON could not assent to this interpretation, but withdrew his Amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

MR. BRUCE moved, in page 7, line 11, to leave out "knowingly.'

MR. STAVELEY HILL said, the Committee had accepted the word in the belief that no man could be guilty in respect of an action committed without his knowledge.

Word struck out.
Amendment agreed to.

Amendment proposed, in page 12, line 25, to leave out the word "ten," in order to insert the word "twenty," (Mr. Secretary Bruce,)-instead thereof. Question proposed, "That the word. 'ten' stand part of the Bill."

MR. GATHORNE HARDY hoped the Amendment would be extended.

There were many small mines where only very few persons were employed, varying in number from six or seven to 20 people, and it were scarcely necessary to force certificated managers upon such small mines which were shallow and contained no inflammable gases, but only a small quantity of choke damp. He thought the number of 20 ought to be extended.

MR. RODEN also hoped the Amendment would be extended. It would be quite sufficient to apply it to mines containing 40 persons or more.

LORD ELCHO hoped the Government would adhere to their Amendment as it stood. The miners themselves were very

Clause, as amended, ordered to stand desirous that the provisions should not part of the Bill.

Clause 16 (Payment of persons employed in mines by weight).

be extended too far.

MR. F. S. POWELL supported the extension of the Amendment.

MR. PEASE thought the number of men might be extended to 30.

MR. ELLIOTT said, it was necessary that even small mines should be examined from time to time by a certifi

MR. GOLDSMID stated that the hon. Member for Brighton (Mr. Fawcett), who had given Notice of his intention to propose the omission of the clause, was unable to attend from indisposition. He intended, however, on the third read-cated manager. ing to move the re-committal of the Bill for the purpose of proposing the omission of the clause, not that he objected to wages being determined by weight, but that he thought it should be left to the masters and men to settle this for themselves.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Amendment proposed, in page 12, line 25, to leave out the word "ten," in order to insert the word " thirty," (Mr. Secretary Bruce,)-instead thereof. Question, "That the word 'ten' stand MR. BRUCE moved, in page 7, line part of the Bill," put, and negatived. 37, after "Act," insert

"And in the event of any contravention of or non-compliance with this section by any person whomsoever in the case of any mine, the owner, agent, and manager of such mine shall each be guilty of an offence against this Act unless he prove that he has taken all reasonable means by publication and enforcement of the provisions of this section to prevent such contravention and non-compliance."

Amendment agreed to.
Clause agreed to.

Certificated Managers. Clause 24 (Appointment of manager to mine).

The word "thirty" inserted.

Clause 45 (Report of Inspector).

Amendment proposed,

In page 21, line 4, after the word "proceedings," to insert the words "he shall state the number of mines visited, the time engaged in the visitation, the condition the mines were in as regards safety and ventilation."-(Mr. H. B. Sheridan,)

-instead thereof.

MR. BRUCE said, that the only result of the Amendment would be to add considerable labour of little, if any, prac

tical utility to the already heavy employ- | Amendment. ment of these gentlemen.

MR. A. EGERTON said, he would support the Amendment if the last few words were omitted. No advantage could accrue from stating the number and names of the mines not visited.

MR. J. LOWTHER could see no objection to a provision which would enable them to see that a number of wellpaid officials performed their work properly.

MR. PEASE pointed out that it would work injuriously.

MR. GOLDSMID observed that this was a question of record only, and as the public paid the Inspectors they were entitled to know how the Inspectors were employed.

MR. STAVELEY HILL did not think any additional work would be thrown upon the Inspectors by the adoption of the Amendment.

MR. RODEN believed the proposition would lead to the appointment of more Inspectors, and consequently to increased

expense.

It would be better to

stand by the principle of the Bill, which was not that there should be ocular inspection, but that responsibility should be thrown on the owners and managers of mines.

Question put, "That those words be there inserted."

The House divided:-Ayes 26; Noes 101: Majority 75. Clause agreed to.

Amendment proposed,

In page 29, line 6, after the word "valve," to insert the words " During at least three months after dangerous gas has been found in any mine, a barometer and thermometer shall be placed above ground in a conspicuous position near the entrance to the mine."-(Mr. Secretary Bruce.)

Question proposed, "That those words be there inserted."

Amendment proposed to the said proposed Amendment, to leave out the words "during at least three months." (Sir David Wedderburn.)

Question, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the said proposed Amendment," put, and negatived.

Amendment, as amended, made.

MR. GATHORNE HARDY pointed out that the hon. Member would probably defeat his own object by the adoption of this Amendment, because the Reports of the Inspectors would be over- Amendment proposed, in page 30, whelmed with useless information, and line 24, to leave out the word "or," and become in many instances absolutely un-insert the word "and,"-(Mr. Secretary readable. The duty of the Inspector was Bruce,)—instead thereof. to call attention to unusual circumstances in his district, and when necessary the Home Secretary could demand a special Report.

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Question proposed, "That the word or' stand part of the Bill."

Debate arising;

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Debate be now adjourned."

MR. LIDDELL remarked that formerly the Reports of the school Inspectors were full of dry and uninteresting-(Mr. Collins.) details, and warned the House against the danger of adopting such a system in the case of the Inspectors of mines.

MR. MUNDELLA said, these Reports would not necessarily be full of dry details which no one would read, for the Inspectors would probably agree on a tabular form to be appended to their ordinary Reports. He should support the Amendment.

MR. CANDLISH thought the House would, by accepting the Amendment, take upon itself a duty which properly belonged to the Home Office. He objected to the accumulation of tabulated rubbish.

LORD ELCHO thought, on the whole, it would not be desirable to accept the

Motion, by leave, withdrawn.

Original Question put, and negatived.
The word "and" inserted.

Bill to be read the third time upon Tuesday next, at Two of the clock, and to be printed. [Bill 240.]

CONSOLIDATED FUND (£8,000,000) BILL.
Resolution [July 10] reported;

"That, towards making good the Supply granted to Her Majesty, the sum of £8,000,000 be granted out of the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom."

Resolution agreed to:- Bill ordered to be
brought in by Mr. BONHAM-CARTER, Mr. CHAN-
CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, and Mr. BAXTER,
Bill presented, and read the first time.

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STONE.

Bill presented, and read the first time. [Bill 244.]

TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE, &C. BILL.

On Motion of Mr. WINTERBOTHAM, Bill to con

tinue certain Turnpike Acts in Great Britain; to repeal certain other Turnpike Acts; and to make further provisions concerning Turnpike Roads, ordered to be brought in by Mr. WINTERBOTHAM and Mr. Secretary BRUCE.

Bill presented, and read the first time. [Bill 245.]

WORKMEN AND SERVANTS (COMPENSATION FOR INJURIES) BILL.

On Motion of Mr. MORRISON, Bill to amend the Law relating to Compensation for Injuries to Workmen and Servants, ordered to be brought in by Mr. MORRISON, Mr. HINDE PALMER, and Mr.

ANDREW JOHNSTON.

Bill presented, and read the first time. [Bill 246.]

House adjourned at a quarter after
Two o'clock.

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Order of the Day for the House to be put into a Committee, read.

THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY said, he wished to make a few remarks on the Bill itself before their Lordships went into Committee. The noble Duke (the Duke of Argyll) who had charge of the measure, said on a former occasion that it was by a Bill in the nature of a compromise that the present scheme of English education had been established, and he recommended the House to come to a compromise in the matter of education for Scotland by adopting this Bill, which would not interfere with the religious feelings of the people. He (the Archbishop of Canterbury) had no doubt of the good intentions of the noble Duke, but it might be quite possible that even with the best intentions on the part of those who framed a measure, difficulties scarcely foreseen might arise. The noble Duke had borne eloquent testimony to the moral as well as the educational advantages which had arisen from the existing system of education in Scotland; but he said that it did not cover the entire country, and was consequently inadequate. This was the argument for the adoption of the new Canterbury) hoped care would be taken system; but he (the Archbishop of that under the new system there would be those advantages in respect of education and morals which were admitted to be a result of the system now about to be superseded. Their Lordships ought not to shut their eyes to the fact that the system proposed for Scotland was not altogether the same as regarded school boards as the new system in England. In England there were not school boards for very small districts; but the Bill before their Lordships contained a plan for a school board in every parish in Scotland. A system which worked well on a limited extent might not be so successful on a large scale. The great

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