Col. IV, B. Fairman. documents exhibited for the inspection of the committee, it appears evident, that 30s. per diem during his mission will but reimburse the expenses actually paid by that officer; and therefore it is recommended that the sum of 30s. per day be awarded to the D. G. S., 13 August 1835. under the resolution of the grand lodge which referred the consideration of that subject to. the general committee. This was moved by Brother Eedes as a resolution; but not being seconded, was not put from the chair. The following resolution was moved by Brother South:-That it is the opinion of this committee, that they are not in a situation to come to any conclusion upon this subject, till the duties of the offices are better understood, as there appears to be some misunderstanding thereon, and as the D. G. S. has disputed the authority of the committee. The above resolution having been seconded by Brother Morris, was put by the chairman, and carried. LOYAL ORANGE INSTITUTION. Meeting of the Grand Committee, at No. 3, Cannon-row, Westminster, on Friday 12th, and Saturday the 13th April 1833. Present: Brother W. A. South, in the chair, Brothers Joshua Morris, Edwin Savill, C. W. Marr and John Eedes. Apology for nonattendance was received from the Marquis of Thomond, on account of absence from town. A letter from Brother Buck, of Rochdale, dated 2d April 1833, containing resolutions and a memorial relative to the oaths of allegiance and supremacy to be taken by the members of the O. I., and the mode of carrying that object into effect, was read, and referred to the decision of the grand lodge.-Resolved, That in the absence of all documentary evidence, which they have repeatedly applied for, the committee can come to no conclusion on the subject of remuneration to the D. G. S. for his late tour:-Carried.-Resolved, That the proceedings of the G. L. be referred to the inspection of the G. C. prior to the printing and circulating of the circulars, and that committee be summoned as speedily as convenient after the G. L. meeting for that purpose :-Carried.-Resolved, That Brother John Earl be recommended as a member of the grand committee:Carried. Resolved, That Brother John Earl, W. M. of No. 234, be appointed assistant deputy grand treasurer of the Orange Institution :-Carried.-Resolved, That Mr. C. E. Chetwoode having requested the grand committee to return him certain books and papers left by him at the grand lodge, that copies duly examined and attested be taken, and the originals returned to him;-Carried.-The grand committee having perused the correspondence of the D. G. M. John Booth, of Bristol, cannot but express their high approbation of his spirited and persevering conduct in maintaining the principles of the Orange Institution.-Adjourned to 13th, to-morrow. Saturday, the 13th of April 1833. The grand committee resumed its sitting;-Present: W. A. South, in the chair, the Rev. Robert Spranger, John Eedes, Captain Morris, and C. W. Marr.-A petition from Brother Heeley, of Birmingham, having been read, the committee feel they can do nothing more relative to it than to lay the same before the grand lodge. An application from Hospital-Serjeant Charles Owen Hames, of 2d rifle brigade, Corfu, requesting a D. G. M. certificate, having been read, it was resolved that the same be granted:-Carried.-Proceedings of Warrant No. 233, Woolwich, having been read, and Brother John Gibson, the master of the said warrant, having been examined; -Resolved, That Brother Nimmins be suspended till next meeting of the grand committee. -Your committee regret that their meetings are not more frequent, as, from the accumulation of correspondence and other matters, they have not sufficient time to pay that serious attention to the business of the Institution which their inclination as well as their duty impels them to do: they therefore request the sanction of the grand lodge to be enabled to meet monthly-Carried. As there are numerous applications for the rules and regulations of the society, the committee are of opinion that the same be taken into consideration as soon as possible, in order that they may be ready for the June meeting :-Carried.—Various charges having been made against John Condell, master of Warrant No. 223, and grand mace-bearer, which the committee have not been enabled to determine finally, do recommend that he be suspended until the investigation now in progress be concluded :-Carried. -Brother Ernest Augustus Band, of Warrant No. 223, having applied for a new warrant, and which application being properly certified,-Resolved, That the same be granted. Letter from Manchester, dated 18th February 1833, relative to the expulsion of M'Cleland, of No. 255, to be referred to the particular consideration of the grand lodge:-Carried.— Edward Perry, master, 204, Bilston, to be D. G. M. be confirmed.-That your committee were most anxious to have concluded the vast accumulation of business, but having now devoted two days to that purpose, feel it impossible to do so; and as much that now remains appears to be most important, your committee submit to the grand lodge that they are desirous of meeting as speedily as possible for that purpose:-Carried. W. A. South, Chairman. 436. Is that the circular of February 1834?-[The same being shown to the Witness.]-It is. [The same was delivered in; vide App. No. 2.] 437. You have produced the circular of February 1834; have you the circular of April 1834-I have not been able to lay my hand upon it here. I think I brought I brought one with me; the same paper contains the two for April and for 438. Is that the circular for February 1835?-[The same being shown to the Witness.]—It is; that is the last published. [The same was delivered in; vide App. No. 2.] 439. Was there a meeting in April?—No. 440. Was there a meeting in June?-Yes, on the 4th of June; that is the only permanent meeting, in commemoration of King George the Third. 441. In the book of proceedings, there is no account of any meeting since the 13th of February 1834? No, it has been discontinued; we have a good deal of other business, and cannot afford the time, and the circular being the same thing, it was not considered to be essentially necessary; the circular is copied into the book, and not the circular from the book. I make out the circular, generally speaking, from minutes and from memory, in the best way I am able, and when printed, it is entered in the book. 442. Have you made out the circular for June last? No, I am making it -out, but from ill health, and a variety of causes, I have not completed it. 443. Will you produce an account of that meeting to-morrow?-It will be in a very garbled state; a great part of it is floating in my mind at present. 444. The committee appear to have had sittings?-They sit whenever I find it necessary to call upon them for their advice and assistance, like a cabinet council or a privy council, whenever there are matters of which I do not choose to take the responsibility on myself. 445. Have you any book of the proceedings of the grand committee?—No; I just make a minute, and if there is any thing to report to the grand lodge, I draw up the report from that. 446. Do you keep those minutes you take ?-No; I destroy them on ordinary occasions, not wishing to keep unnecessary papers. 447. You state that you keep them on extraordinary occasions-Yes, but those are rare; I call a meeting just prior to the grand lodge, to take off the trouble its high dignitaries would otherwise be exposed to, that His Royal Highness and the noblemen may not be taken up in matters of no consequence, when they are anxious to get away to the Houses of Parliament. 448. After the meetings, you send a circular to the different lodges?—Yes, one to every lodge; and I give them to anybody who wishes to have them. I make no mystery of it. I believe there has been mystery made of it heretofore. 449. How many lodges are there altogether?—I should fancy, speaking quite at random, there may be from 250 to 300. 450. How many members?-Some are very strong, and some are very weak; some can just muster a sufficient number to keep their lodges in operation. 451. Does every lodge pay so much a year?—Yes. 452. Have you an entry of the payments?-Yes; the accounts have not been kept regularly, but the lodges take care to remind me if any thing be omitted. 453. Have you any book of accounts kept by you, or any body for you?These long books contain the accounts. These are the only accounts we have. 454. Is this ritual in the form now used?-It is. 455. Every ceremony there stated, is regularly attended to?-It is. [The same was delivered in; vide App. No. 3.] 455*. Is the other the Purple?-That is the Purple. [The same was delivered in; vide App. No. 3.] 456. Here is a circular of the National Protestant Fund, signed by you; will you state when and on what occasion that was issued ?-This reached me from Ireland; it was published in Ireland; and a great number sent over to me, when I was ordered; on some very extensive tours, with a view to promote the cause in the way in which a zealous man would do; after having distributed those I received from Ireland, I published more. 457. At what date ?--I should think in 1832. 458. What is intended by the Protestant Fund ?-It is so long since I read the paper that I cannot say exactly. 459. It is stated that subscriptions will be received by you; for what objects were they solicited?-To protect the poor Protestant who may be persecuted Col. W. B. Fairman. 13 August 1835 Col. W. B. Fairman. or injured; to bring to justice those who may injure him; to protect Protestants generally from any oppressions; to protect the interests of religion and education; to preserve peace and suppress outrage, and to improve the manu13 August 1835. facturing interests in the country in a mode strictly conformable to law. 460. Where was that association instituted ?-In Ireland; we have no branch association of the kind in England. 461. Was that issued by the grand lodge in Ireland?—No; this has nothing immediately to do with the Orange Institution. 462. Who was the person at the head of that institution?-Lord Roden. 463. It stated that you will receive subscriptions; what amount did you receive ?-Merely one sovereign, handed to me by a clergyman at Chester. [The same was delivered in; vide App. No. 10.] 464. There is an address of the Loyal Orange Institution of Great Britain, "His Royal Highness the grand master appeals to the Conservatives of England," signed by yourself as deputy grand secretary; when was that published? -That must have been published in 1832 or 1833; probably it might be 1833,. but in one of the two years. 465. Does that begin, "When all the important interests of a country are exposed to danger from the influence of revolutionary principles, there is but one duty for its defence, to unite in defence of its laws and institutions"?Yes. 466. By whom was that prepared ?-I think this appeared first in the Glasgow Courier, or was issued by the Loyal Gordon Lodge held in that city, and established by me. 467. Was this adopted by your Institution by any order of the lodge?-Certainly not; I published it on my own responsibility. 468. But you signed it as the deputy grand secretary?—Yes; I feel that I had the power of doing so. 469. It is stated here, "As part of a grand conservative body, extending over the whole kingdom, and having its head in the Metropolis, the value of our provincial establishments is immense;" will you state what is meant by the advantage of having that general association all over the country, the head of the body being in the Metropolis; did you mean by the Conservative body, the Loyal Orange Institution?-No, the institution that is known by the name of the Conservative body or club. 470. This is issued under the sanction of the grand master of the empire, His Royal Highness the Duke of Cumberland?-Yes, so it is; but I should not hesitate to say it had reference to Conservative associations more than Orange, but I consider the one as interwoven with the other. 471. Do you mean that commonly called the Carlton Club ?—Yes. 472. Will you state what is meant by this: "Lastly, it enables men possessing wealth and patronage in their command to distinguish the true support of constitutional principles, to reward merit and honesty whenever it suffers oppression and distress;" by "it," do you mean the Loyal Orange Institu tion?—I should rather say, taken by surprise as I am, that it must mean the Conservative Institution; I have always considered the two to be so interwoven, with a difference of name, that it is of little consequence. 473. You consider the Loyal Orange Association of the same nature and identified with that called the Carlton Club ?--Yes, I should consider so, with this distinction, that the Orange Institution is a religious institution, and the Carlton Club does not profess to be so. With respect to a person being a member of the Carlton Club, if, as a gentleman of some rank and situation in life, he is eligible, they never inquire I believe into his religion, which is no exclusion; whilst I have no reserve in saying religion is the first principle we look to in the Orange Institution; we exclude Papists, for instance, and we exclude Jews. 474. Do you exclude Unitarians ?-I rather think we should. 475. Do you not confine it altogether to those who are members of the Church of England?—No, we include Protestant Dissenters; we have a great number of Protestant Dissenters among us. 476. Are you to be understood to say, that you believe the Carlton Club and the Orange Institution are generally interwoven in their views, but you consider consider the Carlton Club more political and the Orange Institution more religious? Yes. 477. There is a phrase here: "The time for such associations has more than arrived; and now the Church, the dear sister of the State, is exhibited to public view in the mangling embraces of a lustful ravisher;" what is the meaning of that phrase ?-I apprehend it is figurative. 478. Here is a recommendation: "Deputy grand chaplains and magistrates are requested for the same reason to cause this to be placardea in town-halls and church porches for the inspection of the public;" do you consider, that as your association is avowedly a moral and religious establishment, that paragraph is very becoming for exhibition on church porches ?-I see no objection to it. 479. Was this published at the expense and under the patronage of the Loyal Orange Institution?-It was certainly published at the expense of the institution; I will not say under the patronage, for I did it myself on my own responsibility. 480. This paper now shown to you is an account between the deputy grand secretary, namely yourself, and the grand lodge?—Yes. 481. In this account you have charged the expenses of publishing these documents?—Yes, certainly; but that paper, I have no hesitation in saying, was published on my own responsibility. 482. And circulated very widely?—Yes, by myself as widely as I had the opportunity. 483. The different officers, of course, in the metropolis, had copies to circulate also?—Not in wholesale; I had, but I circulated it largely among gentlemen in the country. 484. Did you not send a copy to every office-bearer in the lodge?—I have no doubt I did. [The same was delivered in ; vide Appendix, No. 5.] 485. Here is another, "The members of the Carlton Club and the Conservatives of England;" was that circulated by you?-No, by the grand committee of the Orange Institution; the other I issued upon my own responsibility; this was issued upon the authority of the grand committee; that is decidedly an Orange paper. 486. Who is at the head of the grand committee ?-The Honourable Thomas Kenyon is, but he never comes amongst us; you may consider me as the head, for I take the chair when I am present. 487. Is not this not a religious, but a political publication?-I should call this a political publication. 488. Does not your society, then, partake of a political as well as of a religious character?-Certainly; upon that I take no personal responsibility. [The same was delivered in; vide Appendix, No. 5.] 489. Here is another, "The Orange Institution of Great Britain, Field Marshal the Duke Ernest," with the names of the deputy chaplains; by whom is that published?-By myself; my name is attached to it. 490. Was not that with the sanction and knowledge of the members of the institution ?-Only in this way; it is left to my own discretion to publish what I may think proper, but I do it upon my own responsibility; I do not consult the Duke of Cumberland nor Lord Kenyon upon every paper. 491. Have they ever remonstrated against any of these papers?-Certainly not. 492. Therefore you conceive they do not object to them? ---Certainly. [The same was delivered in; vide Appendix, No. 2.] 493. Here is an account, purporting to be an account with the grand lodge, signed by you; is that submitted to the grand committee?-Yes, to the auditors. 494. Is that signed by the auditors?—Yes. 495. Does it include the charge for all the documents which have been produced, and for your expenses during the tours ?—Yes. 496. Are the Committee to understand that the expenses for the tours were incurred under the sanction of the grand committee or the grand lodge?— Decidedly the grand lodge. [The same was delivered in; vide Appendix No. 2.] 497. Have you a separate commission?--I have. Col. W. B. Fairman. 13 August 1835. Col. W. B. Fairman. 13 August 1835. 498. Can you bring it to-morrow with you?-I have not the slightest objection, but it is a commission I hold specially under the Duke of Cumberland, as resolved on in grand lodge; how far I am authorized to make that public I cannot say. 499. In what manner does it differ from any other warrants?—It is very different; it recites several matters; it was drawn up by myself, and met the approbation of His Royal Highness and Lord Kenyon, and was signed by the grand master. 500. It appears to the Committee that any thing relating to the general business of the society cannot be considered confidential?—I have no objection to produce it. 501. Do you publish an account every half year?-That ought to be done; but there has been none published since this; the accounts are now being made out; the accounts have not been made out the last two years, in consequence of my being so much away and so much engaged. 502. That is dated August 1832, and you say there are two every year?— There should be two every year, but I have published but one account. 503. Have you the books from which those accounts are made?-They are taken from those two long books. 504. There is a blank warrant signed "Ernest;" is that the ordinary form ?— Yes, signed in blank, and I countersign it when I grant it; I get 50 or 60 in store; and it is left to my own discretion to judge of the fitness of the persons to whom I issue them. The Duke of Cumberland never knows to whom they are granted, unless by incidental circumstances occurring. 505. The Duke attends lodges?—Yes. 506. Are there reports made of all that are granted in the grand lodge?-In a general way, not to whom precisely. 507. This purports to be a certificate of initiation ?—Yes. [The same was delivered in. Vide Appendix, No. 12.] 508. Can you produce any of the warrants granted to men in the army?— No, I do not think I have one; I am not sure whether any lodge may have been broken up and dispersed; it is usual with them in that case to return me the warrant, and I may have one. 509. What is the use of this certificate?-One use is to assist our funds; another to identify the new member. It is a certificate of initiation. 510. The bearer of this certificate may avail himself of it for the purposes of brotherhood?--Yes; if he was going into a lodge where he was not known, he might use it; but we have a little bit of parchment called a visiting certificate, which they may carry about more conveniently. 511. Will you look at this printed document, headed "King and Constitution"?-[A Paper being shown to the Witness.]—I know nothing of that; it belongs to the Grand Lodge in Ireland. [The same was delivered in, and read, as follows:] NEW SYSTEM, 1824. KING AND CONSTITUTION! District of Military. LOYAL ORANGE ASSOCIATION, No. 94 We, the master, deputy master and secretary of the Loyal Orange Association, No. 94, under the registry of Great Britain, held in the 2d battalion of the Rifle Brigade, in the Island of Malta, do hereby certify, That brother Robert Leithwaite has regularly received the degree of a true Orangeman and the Purple Order in 1725, in this our association, and that he has conducted himself during his stay amongst us to the entire satisfaction of all our brethren: We therefore request that all the regular associations of the universe do recognize him as such. Given under our hands and the seal of the society, this 25th day of March 1830. seal. (Indorsed.) We, the master, deputy master and secretary of lodge Francis Heaseman, Master. J. Aikin, Master. J. Haywood, Secretary. |