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employed more reflection, than on the There is but one step more necessary to grounds of our present dispute with Ame be taken, and peace will, in my humble rica; the result has been an opinion by opinion, be certain and infallible; and in which I believe I shall abide as long as I relation to that step alone have I ventured breathe; it is, Sir, that in my conscience to rise on the present occasion. It has I think the claim of the Americans is just already been touched upon by an hon. and well-founded, to be left in the free gentleman (Mr. James Grenville) who exercise of the right of taxing themselves always expresses himself with elegance in their several provincial assemblies, in and propriety. The point I mean, Sir, is the same manner that Ireland now does that his Majesty's commissioners may be and always has done. By this beautiful empowered to treat with the Congress. I part of our constitution, our wise ances- am convinced, Sir, that America will not tors have bound together the different and listen to a treaty through any other me distant parts of this mighty empire; by dium; it stands to reason and common this single principle, heretofore inviolate, senses he will not; for the Congress is not they have diffused in a most unexampled only the sole existing power at this mo manner the blessings of liberty and good ment in America, but it is to the union government through our remotest pro- formed by means of the Congress, that vinces. Look, Sir, into the history of the America owed its strength, and its formi provinces of other states, of the Roman dable power of resistance; without such a provinces in ancient time; of the French, union, twelve wide-spread, far-distant proSpanish, Dutch, and Turkish provinces of vinces, thinly peopled and individually more modern date, and you will find every weak, could never act with effect in derpage of it stained with acts of oppressive fence of what they think their violated violence, of cruelty, injustice and pecula. rights; nor is it to be supposed they will tion: but in the British provinces the an- dissolve this firm bond of union till their nual meetings of their little assemblies grievances are redressed. May 1, then, have constantly restrained the despotism, be permitted very humbly to join my feeand corrected the follies of their gover- ble voice to the hon. gentleman's, and nors; they watch over the administration entreat the ministry that no false pride, no of justice, and from time to time enact misplaced idea of dignity and authority such salutary regulations as tend to pro- may induce them to forbid the commis mote their happiness and well being. sioners from treating for and seeking And what, Sir, I beseech you, could in- peace where alone peace may be found. sure the regular meeting of those assem- Let the commissioners be vested with disblies, ever troublesome to governors, but cretionary powers, and left at least withtheir retaining in their own hands, like us out an express prohibition to treat with at home, the power of granting the funds that body; or let some means be devised necessary for defraying the current ex- of legalizing a Congress, by calling one pence of government. Were your pro- pro re nata under his Majesty's authority. vincial assemblies deprived of this power, The commissioners will, Sir, I hope, be I cannot see wherein the government of well chosen, will be men of rank and chaAmerica would differ from that of Indos- racter, men of known attachment to the tan. And has our enquiries, in a former constitution, and revered for services done session, into the administration of Bengal, to their country; and neither too much made us in love with the eastern species of attached to Britain nor America, but if government? Do we seriously wish to possible, impartial in their opinion contransplant the rapine and cruelties of In- cerning the present contest. dia to America? But now, Sir, that this system is given up to our colonies, peace will, I hope, speedily follow the conces

sion.

I cannot, Sir, but commend, in the warmest terms, the intention expressed in the Speech from the throne, of sending a commission to America to empower persons on the spot, to receive submissions, to remove oppressive restrictions, and to grant pardons and other indulgences to our fellow citizens across the Atlantic.

When men such as I have described, giving weight and dignity to the commission they bear, come to treat and to reason with the Americans, much may be urged to quiet their jealousies and apprehensions, and to bring them back to their wonted allegiance to the King, and subordination to this country. They may be told, Sir, and told with truth, that parliament is not so determinately obstinate on the measure of taxation as they apprehend. They may be reminded that if parliament taxed them

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Britain in parliament assembled, beg leave to return your Majesty the humble thanks of this House, for your most gracious Speech from the throne.

"Permit us, Sir, to assure your Majesty, that we have long lamented the condition of our unhappy fellow subjects in America; seduced from their allegiance by the grossest misrepresentations, and the most wicked and insidious pretences, they have been made the instruments of the ambition and traitorous designs of those dangerous men, who have led them step by step to the standard of rebellion, and who have now assumed the powers of sovereign authority, which they exercise in the most despotic and arbitrary manner, over the persons and properties of this de

in 1764, the same parliament, finding this
well-meant but injudicious measure offen-
sive to America, repealed the tax in the
year 1765. They may be told that on
the memorable occasion of repealing the
Stamp Act, their great champion, the
earl of Chatham, laid the claim of Ame-
rica only to an exemption from internal
taxation. They may be also told that
the seven or eight duties afterwards im-
posed, were not internal taxes, but ex-
ternal port-duties on foreign commo-
dities. And yet in consequence of those
external duties being disagreeable to
America, they were all repealed, ex-
cept this miserable three-penny duty
upon tea. And when to those argu-
ments the commissioners can add, that
parliament, even on this last article, is dis-luded people.
posed to relax, I can hardly doubt of their
success. I already see peace and har-
mony restored. I see the two countries,
like two friends who have quarrelled, re-
turning with eagerness to their ancient
habits of friendship, and cementing more
closely than before their useful connec-
tion, and affectionate union. How ar-
dently, Sir, this is my wish, let the trouble
I have now ventured to give you this
night, bear witness, if the uniformity of
my conduct for eleven years that this un-
happy contest has subsisted, should not
be a sufficient testimony of my sincerity.

The motion for recommitting the Address was then negatived. After which sir George Yonge moved an Amendment to the Address by inserting after the words "maintenance of its authority" these words," and we will immediately take into our consideration the measure of introducing foreign troops into any part of the dominions of Great Britain, without the previous approbation of parliament." The question being put, the House divided. The Yeas went forth.

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"Your faithful Commons took a sin cere part in your Majesty's benevolent and paternal desire, rather to reclaim, than to subdue, the most refractory of your colonies; and, excited by your Majesty's great example, we were anxious to prevent, if it had been possible, the effusion of the blood of our fellow subjects, and the calamities which are inseparable from a state of war; we still hoped that your Majesty's people in America would have discerned the traitorous views of their leaders, would have considered how ruinous even their success must be to themselves, and been convinced that constitutional subjection to Great Britain is the freest and happiest condition of any civil society in the known world: but we now see with indignation, that no other use has been made of the moderation and forbearance of your Majesty and your parliament, but to strengthen the preparations of this desperate conspiracy: and that the rebellious war now levied is become more general, and manifestly carried on for the purpose of esta blishing an independent empire.

"We beg leave to assure your Majesty of our entire concurrence with your Majesty, in thinking that it is now become the part of wisdom, and (in its effects) of clemency, to put a speedy end to these disorders, by the most decisive exertions; and that we learn with the greatest satisfaction, that, for this purpose, your Majesty has increased your naval establishment, and greatly augmented your land forces, in such a manner as may be the least burthensome to your kingdoms; and we will cheerfully and effectually support your Majesty in such necessary measures, and enable your Majesty, when the occa

Majesty's crown, and the interests of your people are so essentially concerned; and we hope, and trust, that we shall, by the blessing of God, put such strength and force into your Majesty's hands, as may soon defeat and suppress this rebellion, and enable your Majesty to accomplish your gracious wish, of re-establishing order, tranquillity, and happiness, through all the parts of your united empire."

sion shall require it, to avail yourself of the friendly offers, which your Majesty has received, of foreign assistance: we thankfully acknowledge the gracious considerations which induced your Majesty to send a part of your electoral troops to the garrisons of Gibraltar and Port Mahon, in order that a larger number of the established forces of this kingdom might be applied to the maintenance of its authority: and we are bound in duty to return your Majesty our particular thanks, for pointing out to us, from the throne, the constitutional resource of our well-modelled and well-regulated national militia; which, upon every great emergency, cannot fail of affording security to your Majesty's realm, and of giving, at the same time, extent and activity to your military operations.

"It is with the highest satisfaction and gratitude, we hear the affectionate declaration of the father of his people, that, when the unhappy and deluded multitude, against whom this force will be directed, shall become sensible of their error, your Majesty will be ready to receive the misled with tenderness and mercy; and your Majesty's gracious communication, of your intention to give authority to certain persons on the spot, to grant general and particular pardons and indemnities, in such manner, and to such persons, as they shall think fit, and to receive the submission of any province or colony which may be disposed to return to its allegiance, demands our warmest acknowledgments; and we shall be ready to give our concurrence to such measures as may best contribute to carry your Majesty's wise and humane intentions into execution.

"Every motive, and every interest, that can animate the hearts of loyal subjects, call upon your faithful Commons to grant to your Majesty such supplies as the circumstances and exigency of affairs may require; and, being fully convinced that the security of every benefit and advantage derived to the commerce, the manufactures, and the navigation, of your Majesty's kingdoms, from the American colonies, must ever depend on their being held in that due subordination to the legislature of Great Britain in which the constitution has placed them, we should be wanting in the duty which we owe to our constituents, ourselves, and our posterity, if we did not engage, with our lives and fortunes, to support this great and important cause, in which the rights of your

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"I return you my hearty thanks for this loyal and dutiful Address: I promise myself the most happy consequences from the very zealous and affectionate assurances of the support of my faithful Commons at this great and important conjunc ture; and I have a firm confidence, that, by the blessing of God on the justice of the cause, and by the assistance of my parliament, I shall be enabled to suppress this dangerous rebellion, and to attain the most desirable end of restoring my subjects in America to that free and happy condition, and to that peace and prosperity, which they enjoyed, in their consti tutional dependance on Great Britain, before the present unhappy disorders."

Debate in the Lords on employing Foreign Troops without the Consent of Parliament.] Nov. 1. The Duke of Manchester rose and said:

My lords; I beg leave to call your attention to a subject of as great importance to the liberty of this country, as America was to its wealth and power, before the violence of the times had wrested that treasure from the British crown, and spurned the jewel, because the setting appeared uncouth. I do not mean, my lords, to dwell long on the unfortunate story; the page of future history will tell how Britain planted, nourished, and for two centuries preserved a second British empire; how, strengthened by her sons, she rose to such a pitch of power, that this little island proved too mighty for the greatest efforts of the greatest nations. Within the space of 20 years, the world beheld her arms triumphant in every quarter of the globe, her fleets displayed victorious banners, her sails were spread, and conquest graced the canvas. Historic truth must likewise relate, within the same little space of time, how Britain fell to half her greatness; how strangely lost,

by misjudging ministers, by rash-advised councils, our gracious sovereign, George 3, saw more than half his empire crumble beneath his sceptre: America, late the strength, now the foe to Britain, dismembered, torn, I fear for ever lost, to England, whence she sprung. With this calamity heavy on us, our duty, interest, and love to that country which still remains calls on us to be strictly watchful of its liberty. The late Speech from the throne has given a just alarm, has made a wound upon the constitution, which if not quickly healed, may spread a dangerous venom. The sentiments it breathes, are full of higher claims of prerogative, than any speech that I can remember since the Re volution. It appears to contain slights of this council, neglect of parliament, indifference of their approbation. The part I wish to call your lordship's attention to, is that wherein his Majesty informs the House," he has taken possession of the garrisons of Gibraltar and Port Mahon with his Hanoverian forces." Far be it from me to impute the sentiments of this speech to the respectable mouth that was made to utter it. I am confident his Majesty has too high notions of what is right, too great a love for justice, to wish to invade knowingly the real privileges of this nation. I may go further, my lords, and even acquit the ministers of any wicked, premeditated design to infringe the subjects' liberty. I do not think such evil of them; but I cannot so easily acquit them of ignorance of our laws, or indifference or inattention to them. My lords, I take it to be an undoubted truth, an axiom in this government, that the king can maintain no standing forces, other than what are approved by parliament. But that I may not appear to build on my own reason only, give me leave to quote some acts of parliament in support of what I have advanced. I must begin by that great declaration of our liberties, the Bill of Rights. This Act, my lords, contains the claim of various indubitable rights from ancient usage, nor asks as favours any part. It is a capitulation with our kings. The Act declares the raising and keeping a standing army within the kingdom, without consent of parliament, is against law. The next I shall quote is the Mutiny Bill, which sets out in the preamble, in the words of the Bill of Rights, but proceeds, "that it is necessary for the safety of the kingdom, the defence of the possessions of the crown,

and the preservation of the balance of Europe, that a certain number of forces should be kept up." It then limits what the number should be. I am well aware, it may be said, the garrisons of Gibraltar and Port Mahon are not in that number; whence or for what reason that irregula, rity arose, I am ignorant; but thus far it is cured, that they are annually provided for as to pay and maintenance by parlia ment, and therefore must be supposed approved. My lords, in the course of the late war, it was thought necessary to raise a regiment of Americans, of 4,000 men, in which some foreign officers were to serve; but it was not by the King's prerogative, but by act of parliament. At that time that great man, lord Chatham, was minister. In this Act, though passed amidst all the turbulency of a war, fle grante bello, the greatest precautions were taken to guard the people's rights; the number of foreign officers were limited to fifty, the soldiers were to be naturalized subjects, Protestants, to take the oath 1 Geo. 1, and the colonel was to be a natural born subject.

I will now bring your lordship down to an Act of later date; of so fresh a time, that there are few in this House who were not in that parliament that passed it: I mean the 8 Geo. 3, to increase the Irish army. This Act recites, in the preamble, the Act of 10 William, for disbanding the Irish forces, and then provides, that as it may be necessary to keep up, for the defence of Ireland, 12,000 men, in order to give some assistance to the foreign garri sons, the army should be increased to 15,235, all natural born subjects. We see here the King calling for assistance of the British parliament, in order to increase the army in Ireland. He does not, even at the head of the parliament of that kingdom, think his authority sufficient, without sanction of the parliament of Great Britain, to make the least addition to his forces. I must likewise take notice, my lords, that it will be matter of much doubt, whether Hanoverian forces, employed at Gibraltar or Minorca, will be under any law of war. The Mutiny Act extends but to troops therein specified, or voted by parliament. What law will they then be under? They cannot carry Hanoverian laws with them. The laws of England alone can govern; as British subjects, they will be under the protection of British laws. My lords, the King's prerogative I conceive to be no greater in one part of

his dominions than another; the subject is equally protected by the laws, whether shivering in the highlands of the north, or scorching upon Gibraltar's rock. The late determined case of Fabrigas and Mostyn, has cleared the subjects' rights. From every instance I have had the honour of submitting to you, and from the constant practice, I must infer, that the King has no right to maintain, in any part of the dominions of the British crown, any troops, other than are consented to by parliament, both as to number and to nation. I will therefore conclude with moving, "That bringing into any part of the dominions of the crown of Great Britain, the Electoral Troops of his Majesty, or any other Foreign Troops, without the previous consent of parliament, is dangerous and unconstitutional."

The Earl of Rochford confessed, that he was one of his Majesty's ministers who advised the measure, against which the vote of censure was now moved; that he was fully satisfied it was perfectly justifiable, and was ready to abide the consequences: that however far the professions of any noble lord might go, he would yield to none in a warm and steady attachment to the constitution, to the very Bill now so justly extolled, the Bill of Rights, that great foundation of our liberties; but saying this, he could not perceive that in the most remote degree, that law could be construed to reach the measure now so peremptorily condemned. For his part, he was unable to see how it offended against the law, either in letter or spirit. The clause plainly importing two conditions; bringing troops "within the kingdom," and "in time of peace;" whereas, it was evident to the clearest demonstration, that the troops in question were not within the kingdom; nor would any lord venture to affirm, that we were now debating in a time of peace and tranquillity. Those were the motives which induced him to concur in the measure; nor had he heard a syllable urged against the propriety of it, since it became a matter of public discussion, sufficient to alter the opinion he at first conceived. But having learned that a noble lord in the other House (lord North) who was governed by the same reasons, finding that they did not strike several gentlemen in the same light, was now probably moving a Bill of Indemnity, for the purpose of

* See Howell's State Trials, vol. 20, p. 81. [VOL. XVIII, ]

dispelling all apprehensions; and as that would of course meet the ideas of the noble lords on the other side, he must be under the necessity of moving the previous question. He knew how unfavourable to the full debate and discussion of questions of importance, this mode of proceeding was deemed; yet, he believed, when the motives he now alleged were attended to with candour, he should appear fully justified in the opinion of every part of the House. His lordship resorted to a variety of other arguments in defence of the measure, particularly on the ground of expediency, and the urgent necessity there was for adopting it, in order that the troops which the Hanoverians were intended to replace might return to this kingdom, so as to forward the necessary embarkations for America early in the spring. He observed, that the fears suggested by the noble duke were ill-founded; for still there would be a considerable force, composed of British troops, remaining in the garrisons; in the proportion at least of 1,400 to 1,000 in one fortress, and 600 to 900 in the other. In short, his lordship defended the measure, on its being legal, constitutional, and expedient.

Earl Talbot spoke against the propriety of the Act of Indemnity, alluded to by the last noble lord. He had never heard it so much as asserted, that an Act of Indemnity answered any other purpose, than to secure the advisers of measures against private actions, arising from damages sustained by personal contracts. Such were the cases relative to the importation of hides, and stopping the ports in 1766, to prevent the exportation of corn. As to the law declaring those rights, so warmly contended for by the noble duke, it could not admit of a ground for an impeachment, because that law stated nothing as describing any particular species of offence, and consequently annexed no punishment. In his opinion, therefore, a Bill of Indemnity could not apply, because the measure, if at all illegal, which he was convinced it was not, called for no protection against either impeachment or private actions.

The Duke of Grafton began with expressing his astonishment, that any lord in that House, any real friend to his country, any man who loved the constitution he was born under, could employ his time in commenting on the letter, and explaining away the spirit of that great bulwark of the constitution, the Bill of Rights; that law, which, as it were, circumscribed within it [3 F]

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