For fable is Love's worldAnd Venus who brings everything that's fair. 'Piccolomini,' Act II. sc. iv. Scott prefaces the quotation thus :—

"But Mannering was a youthful lover, and might perhaps be influenced by the feelings so exquisitely expressed by a modern poet."

There is another quotation from the same work as the motto for chap. iv. E. MANSEL SYMPSON.

"POETA NASCITUR NON FIT" (1st S. ix. 398; 7th S. vi. 439).-A very pertinent quotation from Cicero, Pro Arch.,' c. viii., was given at the earlier of the two references above, and C. J. P. gave another very interesting quotation from Quintilian, ii. 3, at 4th S. vi. 103," Orator non nascitur." The history of the proverb seems to be this. The general sentiment became a proverb, of which the origin, as in the instance of most proverbs, is not known. The earliest use of this proverb I have been able to meet with is in Calius Rhodiginus, in his 'Lectiones Antiquæ,' 1. vii. c. iv. p. 225, Basil. ap. Froben., s.a. (ob. 1525), “Vulgo certe jactatur, nasci poetam oratorem fieri." Cælius is treating in this chapter of the truth of the common sentiment. A quotation is often given in books of proverbs as from Cicero which is not anywhere in his works. "Nascimus poetæ, fimus oratores " (to anticipate the repetition of it). Much of this note can also be seen in 6th S. vii. 225.

ED. MARSHALL.

CAPT. MARRYAT (7th S. vii. 9).—MR. MASKELL

would obtain the information which he wants, I am sure, by applying to my friend Mrs. Valentine, 13, Warwick Road, Kensington, who is a relative of the novelist. E. WALFORD, M.A.

7, Hyde Park Mansions, N.W. LADIES IN PARLIAMENT (7th S. vi. 405, 517).— The serving of the office of high sheriff by the Countess of Pembroke is surely no precedent for women who desire the "usurpation of male offices." The shrievalty of Westmoreland was hereditary, and therefore she was bound to hold the office, just as in our own times has been the case with the office of Lord Great Chamberlain.

Hastings.

EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.

of Leicester, he did so on condition that no Jew should henceforth reside within the walls. Nevertheless a Jew was mayor of that town a few years since, but for the first time, I believe. C. E. GILDERSOME-DICKINSON.

Eden Bridge, Kent.

Neither of your former correspondents on this subject having, so far, published in your columns the passage which Milman refers to as his authority, and having myself privately been put in possession of the quotation, I will ask you to lay it before your readers, that an important link in the chain of evidence may not be missing. It is to be found at p. 206 of the Report of the Committee "Appointed to search the Journals of the House, Rolls of Parliament, and other Records and Documents for all Matters touching the Dignity of a Peer of the Realm" (B.M., 1, 9). The passage alluded to reads:—

"The Historian* afterwards speaks of this Impositiont as an Extortion, at the same time mentioning the King's pain of Death in case of their Return.” Edict banishing all the Jews from his Kingdom under

Milman's note is evidently an error, as no referThe italics are mine. The page (180) given in ence to the banishment is there given.

W. S. B. H. SILVAIN (7th S. vi. 509).—As a guess, may this not be the French way of writing the name Sullivan? There was a Laurence Sullivan in the House

of Commons about the time mentioned.

Hastings.

EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M. A.

This name looks suspiciously like Selwyn. No other surname at all resembling it appears in the 'Return of Members of Parliament' during the The disagreeable conclusion, therefore, seems inperiod 1761-1768, the Parliament of 1 George III. evitable that the delinquent dilettante was no less a person than George Augustus Selwyn, Esq., who, having been elected member for Gloucester city on April 15, 1754, was appointed Paymaster of the Board of Works in the following year, and continued to represent the same city till the dissolution of the fourteenth Parliament of Great Britain in 1780.

bought in order to be near it; that is, if I am right in supposing that the property still indicated by the names Winchester Street, Winchester House, &c., belonged to the Marquis, and not to the Bishop, of Winchester. W. E. BUCKLEY.

KITTERING (7th S. vii. 24).-This word presents no difficulty. It is a disguised form of the provincial English catering, which the boy probably pronounced better than it was taken down, and which the judge explained with perfect correctness. Cater, to cut diagonally, is duly given in Halliwell; and it is used in Kent and Surrey. In the list of Surrey provincialisms (E. D. S., Gloss., c. 4) we find, "Caterways, Catering, adv. used of crossing diagonally." It would be of much assistance to me if those who inquire after words, and who by so doing confess that they do not quite understand them, would refrain in every case from suggesting an etymology. In the present case the suggestion that kittering represents "quartering," is just the very thing to throw an investigator off the track, precisely because there is a real ultimate connexion between the words. Quartering is ultimately due to the Lat. quartus, an ordinal numeral. Cater, on the other hand, is due to the Lat. quatuor, a cardinal number. It makes all the difference, because the former r in quarter would not have disappeared after that fashion. Cater is the correct Old English word, the number "four" on a die being so called. It is the correct descendant of the O.F. katre, four. The names of the marks upon dice were formerly (and even now) the following:-ace, deuce, tray, cater, sink, size (or six). Cater gave the notion of four corners; and to cater a field is to cross it cornerwise, i.e., diagonally. It obviously gives double trouble when one has to explain both a word and its mistaken origin.

WALTER W. SKEAT.

COLLECTION OF H. WALPOLE (7th S. vi. 228, 330; vii. 34).—There are four works, two more than the REV. E. MARSHALL has (not quite accurately)

noted:

1. A Catalogue of the Classic Contents of Strawberry Hill. London, April, 1842. 4to.-Printed cover; portrait; pp. xxiv and 250.

2. Edes Strawberrianæ. Names of Purchasers and the Prices to the Sale Catalogue of the choice Collections of Art and Virtù, at Strawberry-Hill Villa......London, n.d. [1842]. 4to. 7s. 6d. Printed cover and 1 f. prelim.; pp. 58.

3. A Catalogue of the extensive and most valuable Collection of Engraved Portraits...... London, June, 1842. 4to. Printed cover; pp. vi and 129 (erroneously

numbered 131).

4. Edes Strawberrianæ. Names of Purchasers and the Prices to the Detailed Sale Catalogue of the Collection of Early Drawings, Etchings and Prints...... London, n.d. [1842]. Limited to fifty copies. Price Three Shillings. 4to.-Printed cover; pp. 20.

The collection of prints was very important as being the foundation of 'Bromley's Catalogue of

Engraved British Portraits' (by Anthony Wilson), 1793, as is affirmed on the cover of the last of the four works noted here. JULIAN MARSHALL.

'ALUMNI WESTMONASTERIENSES' (7th S. vi. 347, 475).—I have to thank Mr. M. Ì. F. Brickdale, of Lincoln's Inn, for his courtesy and kindness in sending me his copy of the 1852 edition of this work to look at. I have been able to pick up from it most of the information I was in search of. This will save me from having to trespass on the kindness of ALPHA and G. F. R. B., which I fully appreciate. If, as G. F. R. B. states in his note, the 1788 edition is catalogued at the British Museum under "Welch," and, I assume, on the same principle, the 1852 edition under "Phillimore," there is little wonder that, even with the assistance of two very intelligent and courteous attendants, I was not able to find the book. Most people would look for it under "Westminster," where surely both editions ought at once to be entered. J. B. WILSON. Knightwick Rectory.

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THE EDDYSTONE, ITS ETYMOLOGY (7th S. vi. 388). In a Yorkshire will, dated 1515, proved 1519, of which I have a note, the testator describes is Great Edstone, a parish in the wapentake of himself "de magna Eddyston, in com Ebor." This Rydale, North Riding. In Domesday it is Micheledestune. Edstone is probably a placename derived from a personal name; but whether it is correct to assume that Michel signifies "great seems to be open to question. Edstone Church is very old, and is remarkable for a still more ancient Saxon dial and inscription-and it is dedicated to relic preserved in its south wall-the well-known St. Michael. I should like to know what those learned in such matters think of the suggestion that I venture with all diffidence to make—that the patron saint's name is preserved to us in Michel. Great Edstone may be a comparatively modern signification, adopted in contradistinction to Little Edstone, an adjoining township of the neighbouring parish (Sinnington).

An earlier instance than is afforded by this will of the place-name Eddyston may be seen in 'Hist. Coll. Staffs.,' vol. vi. part i. p. 79, where, in the Plea Rolls, 4 Edward I. (A.D. 1276), "Elias de Eddeston" is mentioned.

W. F. MARSH JACKSON.

Two or three short accounts of the Eddystone Lighthouse and its history which I have read agree in deriving the name of the reef on which it is situated from the "swirling eddies" into which the Atlantic waves break up when they encounter the reef. J. F. MANSERGH.

Liverpool.

WILLIAM PARRY (7th S. vi. 468). The expression respecting adverbs which was referred to

by Parry in his confession in the Tower of London, A.D. 1585, was not originally his own, but a quotation from another. It was uttered by him at Paris in 1570, in reference to killing Queen Elizabeth :

"I answered that I was ready to kill the greatest subject of England. But, said he (Morgan), why not the Queen herself? And this, said I, might easily be done, if it might appear to be lawful. For Wattes, a priest, with whom I had conference about it, concealing persons' names, affirmed flatly, it was not lawful. And Chreicton also, the Spanish Jesuit, avouched the same, teaching, That evil was not to be done that good might come of it: that God was better pleased with adverbs than with nouns; and more approved what was done well and lawfully, than what was otherwise good."-Cambden, in Complete History of England,' vol. ii. p. 502, 1706. Parry was hung at Westminster in the same year. ED. MARSHALL.

A like term in Bishop Hall may explain, and is probably the original of the quotation from Motley. "God loveth adverbs; and cares not how good, but how well" (Holy Observations,' § 14, 1614), which, from the context, means, cares not for the nature or greatness of the work, but for the heartiness or conscience with which it is done; and perhaps in Motley, if it suits the place, that Parry fortunately found out, not mere personal excellence, good intent, or goodness (noun), but doing or accomplishing well (adverb), was of import.

W. C. M. B. ALUMNI OXONIENSES' (7th S. vii. 18).-In your review of Mr. Foster's Alumni Oxonienses' you remark that "in Mr. Foster's list of subscribers does not appear a single club, English or American." Will you allow me to state that the committee of the Gladstone Library at this club have pur

chased the work?

ARTHUR W. HUTTON, Librarian. National Liberal Club.

[The name did not appear in Mr. Foster's list. We are glad a beginning has been made.]

HUNTING SONGS WANTED (7th S. vi. 509).The words "Sly Reynard" begin one verse of Henry Fielding's A-hunting we will go," which is probably one of the songs MR. VIDLER asks for. It was originally written in the opera of 'Don Quixote in England,' and may be found in Dr. Charles Mackay's 'Book of English Songs.' I do not, however, see the 'Dark Day in November' in that book. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. Foleshill Hall, Longford, Coventry.

Towards the latter part of the last century the members of the Hampshire Hunt had monthly dinners, and appear to have been a very jovial, song-singing set of men. Among them was the Rev. C. Powlett, of Icen Abbas, who was known as "the poet of the H. H." Whether his hunting songs have ever been published collectively I cannot say, but some of them may be found in 'Sport

ing Reminiscences of Hampshire,' by Esop,
Lond., 1864.
S. JAMES A. SALTER.
Basingfield, Basingstoke.

STROUD AS A PLACE-NAME (7th S. vi. 187, 309, 357, 449, 516).-A PEDANT will find all the interchanges of vowels which I have instanced in the photographic facsimile of the Yorkshire Domesday. The value of this document is that it proves that in the eleventh century owners of land, in the same township, interchanged vowels almost indifferently in spelling the name of the township. The value of the vowels must, therefore, have been more indeterminate than, from the study of purely literary documents, we are accustomed to suppose. ISAAC TAYLOR.

Palermo, Sicily.

Both Venables

JOHN BUNYAN (7th S. vii. 7).-The date of Bunyan's licence to preach, as given at the above reference, is evidently wrong. ("Great Writers ") and Froude ("English Men of Letters") give it as May 9, 1672, and the latter refers to it as a "licence as pastor of the Baptist Chapel at Bedford" (p. 86). Further on in the same book (p. 173) also occurs the statement that after his release and pardon "he visited London annually to preach in the Baptist churches." Surely Bunyan cannot be said to have belonged to any other sect; for was he not "baptized in the Ouse, and became a professed member of the Baptist Congregation" (Froude, p. 53.) I am not aware that he ever changed his opinions on this subject in after life. Probably Canon Venables has seen the parish registers of Elstow, which I believe date back as far as 1640, and can supply the dates of Bunyan's marriages and the baptisms of his children. On p. 17 of his book, before referred to, he states that two (at least) of his children were baptized in the still existing font at Elstow,

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Mary, his dearly loved blind child, on July 20, 1650, and her younger sister, Elizabeth, on April 14, 1654." This latter sentence answers part of HERMENTRUDE's question. It was only lately that Bunyan was loudly proclaimed to be of gipsy extraction, and now he is said to have been of the Congregational persuasion." Will Dr. Brown explode this latter theory also?

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Holmby House, Forest Gate.

JOHN T. PAGE.

'MONODY ON HENDERSON' (7th S. vii. 7).— This was written by Joseph Cottle, "in a small volume of poems published without Cottle's name, at Bristol in 1795" (Ainger's 'Letters of Charles Lamb,' i. 312). Lamb's reference to it is so mixed up with his criticisms of Coleridge's own poems (1796) that he seems to be writing of one of these. In the six-volume edition of Lamb's 'Works' (i. 303) confusion is worse confounded by the editor. Lamb wrote, Monody on H.,' and the editor filled

up the blank thus: "[artley]." probably he only could explain.

What he meant J. D. C. BRANDINGS (7th S. vi. 428).-I do not think DR. MURRAY need shake in his shoes on account of the omission from the 'New English Dictionary' of a mere misprint of the German word brandung (breakers, surge), which Dr. Pusey has transferred (placing it, rightly, within brackets) from Ritter's original work. Q. V.

Is not brandings, a word found in no English authority that I know of, coined directly from the German branden, to surge against, and brandung, breakers? EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A. Hastings.

IN MEMORIAM: J. O. HALLIWELL-PHILLIPPS. (See ante, p. 59.)-May I also be permitted a few lines in memory of our friend ?-no doubt it would greatly interest your readers. I was not known to him before 1874, but since that time he has been to me, perhaps unwittingly, the chief mental comfort of my life, and it will be so to the end. To him I am indebted for a methodical system of gathering, ordering, and indexing materials for my "Old Southwark' studies. His way was to give you a hint, to take you a few inches on the way, and leave you to your own devices. Ever and anon would come by post or parcel, paid to my door, valuable books, cuttings, clues, and hints; anything that he found about old Southwark and the Bankside would be soon on its way to me.

I have many letters and postcards from him, all of the most genial and hospitable character. When we began to know each other well, he would open to me his iron safe, his scrap and note books, and bid me copy and use whatever I liked. We were wont quietly to sit in his study at Hollingbury Copse, each pursuing his own work, with just a word when either lighted upon something interesting to the other, until, wearied or desiring change, we sauntered to and fro along those airy charming walks at the Copse. The well-known bell would ring out, heard far off over the hills, and in we would go together to meet at lunch visitors, who in that hospitable bungalow, as he called it, were always coming and going, cared for by his wife, who, if it were not their own fault, made every one comfortable and cheery. Nothing was stereotyped; all were free to follow their own bent, friendly eyes and hearts always caring for them. He was kind, even tender, especially to those who were below him in fortune or attainments; and, as I know well, he was in the great esteem of others his peers, from whom his good word never failed to procure for me the most effectual attention in any literary help I required. The only condition in that house, tacit but evident, was to help in the general harmony and kindliness to each other. I often met young and old, sick or weary, friends of theirs, irrespec

Miscellaneous.

NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.

The Inns of Old Southwark and their Associations. By William Rendle, F.R.C.S., and Philip Norman, F.S.A. (Longmans & Co.)

THIS volume holds a place midway between the severely antiquarian treatise and the light literature with which we are deluged. It is not intended to be an exhaustive treatise, but the writers know their subject far too well to permit themselves to indulge in the nonsense with As an introduction to a curious subject, concerning which serious historical studies are often bespattered. which but little has been written, we welcome it gladly. The homes of England have been described in every possible manner. The cottage, the mansion, the manor, and the palace have been experimented upon by the spend some part of our lives and some of us a great learned and the ignorant; but the inn, where all of us portion, has been almost entirely neglected, except by a few magazine writers. This is not as it should be. Much curious lore gathers about our old hostelries. There are some of them whose very names carry us back into the Middle Ages; many which tell us of the times when England was Roman Catholic and it drew custom to have a saint for a signboard. The authors of the volume before us have interpreted their commission liberally. They tell us not a little of the old breweries which stood in such intimate relation to the houses of entertainment. The plan they give of the Borough will be very useful to many persons who do not require it for the sake for which it has been intended. The illustrations are a marked feature in the volume. To some they will be more interesting than the text. The growth of modern wants has swept away nearly all our old inns. So enwho desire to realize what was in the minds of memoirtirely have they become things of the past, that those writers and novelists of the last century cannot do so without some amount of antiquarian research. Even Pickwick' without illustrations is not easily understood by the modern reader. To all such The Inns of Old Southwark' will be very useful.

Most of our readers know Larwood and Hotten's book

on signboards. It is not our duty to criticize that work now." We may remark, however, that it was the first