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New Testament, he said that the word used in the "THE MANOR OF NORBRITH.”—At about two Greek for wine, Olvos, was, like our own word miles from the village of Godstone, in Surrey, is “ wine," a general term, and might mean either an situated the manor of Nobright. Brayley's Surrey, intoxicating or an unintoxicating beverage, accord- vol. iv. p. 137, tells me that "the manor or reputed ing to circumstances. For instance, as I under- manor of Norbrith, Nonbrith, or Norbright, now a. stood him, had the narrative of the miracle wrought farm, about two miles south of the village, is menby our Lord at Cana, or of the Last Supper, or tioned as one of the manors settled by Sir J. Evelyn St. Paul's advice to Timothy to “take a little wine in 1653 on the marriage of his son with Mary' for his stomach's sake and his often infirmities," Farmer. It has been some time the property of been written in Hebrew, the word used for wine the Snow family, and is now in the occupation of in all these passages would have been tirosh; Mr. Hall, farmer.” Manning's Surrey, vol. ii. whereas in the apostolic warning, “Be not drunk p. 330, states that “in 1337 (10 Edward III:). with wine, wherein is excess," it would have been John de Latimer died seised of the manor of Norshekar or yayin. Now, I have been a total ab- brith.” But these authorities are silent on one stainer myself for nearly twenty years, but being point, viz., the origin of the name and its first unconnected with any Temperance body I have no application to the estate under consideration. My esprit de corps to keep up, and I confess that the impression is that its derivative roots are Saxon. above statements, so far as they refer to the pro- The word has evidently become corrupted from the hibition of fermented, and the permission to drink original term. I wish very much to ascertain the unfermented, wine, appear to me in the highest meaning of the name.
ARCHÆOLOGIST. degree improbable-indeed, almost absolute nonsense. As, however, I am entirely ignorant of PHILIP STUBBS.—I am anxious to learn any Hebrew, I cannot take upon myself positively to particulars respecting the life of Philip Stubbs, the assert this. The writer went so far as to say that author of The Anatomie of Abuses, 1583, &c., his he was ready, when called upon to do so, to prove birthplace, father's name, where he died, &c. that the wine made by our Lord at the marriage Wood, Athen. Oson., says that he was born of feast at Cana was unfermented, which seems to me genteel parents, but where, one of his descendants. rather a bold assertion.
of both his names, who is a Vintner, living in A writer in “N. & Q." about fourteen years ago, the Parish of St. Andrew's Undershaft, London, signing himself “S. L., an Unpledged Total knows not.” This latter Philip was son of Abstainer," dealt with the subject of the wine of “Richard Stubbs, Gent., of Chiselhurst, Kent, the Bible, which he maintained was certainly fer- Clerk of the Check to Henrietta Maria, Consort of mented, and consequently of an intoxicating Charles I.” Was this Richard son or grandson of Dature ; but he did not go into this question of the author of The Anatomie of Abuses ? the distinction between yayin and tirosh. Will Katherine, wife of Philip Stubbs, whose life and some of your readers and contributors who are death are described in The Christall Glasse för acquainted with Hebrew help me with their know. Christian Women, died at Burton-on-Trent, when ledge, and do what they can to clear up the diffi- not quite twenty-one years of age, as related in her culty of the various distinctions between yayin, life, after having given birth to a son. Was the shekar, tirosh, &c. ? It is rather curious that above Richard this son, or did Philip marry again ?' Cruden, in his Concordance, states that the wines
Wood also says that "near of kin, if not brotherof Palestine, so far from being unfermented grape- lor father to this Philip, was Joh. Stubs, of Linjuice, were “heady." I daresay, however, that | coln's Inn, Gent., a most rigid Puritan, author of teetotallers (I am speaking of extreme ones like
A Discoverie of a Gaping Gulf for England by: the writer I have been quoting) are ready enough another French Marriage, &c." What was the to grant this; only they maintain, I presume, that
exact relationship? the good Jews did not use these heady wines, but In the Shakespeare Soc. Papers, vol. iv., 1849.;. limited themselves to the harmless tirosh. It is Mr. James Purcell Reardon gives some specimenz. easy to understand the "pull ” it would give the l of Stubbs's writing, and promises “on a future. Good Templars and other Temperance men over occasion to furnish some particulars of his life their opponents if they could once for all prove which have hitherto escaped notice but are worth that the Bible absolutely forbids the use of fer preserving.” Were these ever published ? mented wine just as much as the Koran does ;
Any information on these points will much but “ Credat Judæus Apella, non ego.”
HENRY STUBBS, B.A. I have stated that I am a total abstainer, and Danby, Ballyshannon. as I do not care to publish my personal habits to all and sundry, I will depart from my usual MEDALLIC ARTISTS.—Can any one give me the custom of appending my name to my articles, and best authorities on the lives and works of the folwill simply sign myself
lowing medallic artists : Bain, Faulkner, Hilliard, AN OLD CONTRIBUTOR. Kirk, Milton, Pidgeon, Pingo, Stothard, Webb, Wolff, Wyon, Yeo ? Also, who was I. V. N., whose and altogether omits the highest known waterfall initials appear on a medal of the Duke of Cum- in the world, the Great Yosemite Fall in California. berland ?
P. C. Such cyclopædias, too, as I have seen do not treat
the subject as it deserves. I learn that the latest Addison's HYMNS BY MARVELL.-A writer work is Herbinius's Dissertationes de Cataracter, says, in the New Church Quarterly (art. “Magazine | 1678 ; can you or any of your readers inform me Literature"), “ Many persons are amazed to hear where I can obtain or inspect a copy? I also hear that “The spacious firmament on high' and 'When that a similar work is now being compiled. Can all thy mercies, O my God,' are not Addison's, you tell me the name of the publisher ? but Andrew Marvell's.” What is the authority
A. G. G. for this, or in what edition of Marvell are the hymns ? They are not in the only one I can con
“ Cos.”— What is the origin of the prefix cos as sult, which purports to be complete-one published applied to cos lettuces ? It may be accredited with 1870 by Murray, of Queen Square.
such lore as that these kinds, or species, were first C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. introduced from the island of Cos, a name now, by Bexbill.
the way, obsolete, I believe. I should like some [In addition to what has been already said on this
data whereon to establish the fact, however, pro or subject in “ N. & Q.” (1st S. v. 439,513, 548, 597; ix. 373, con.
WILLIAM EARLEY. 424, and especially 4in S. ii. 356, where BIBLIOTHECAR. CHETHAM. demolishes the theory that Marvell wrote Cross KEYS ON ST. PETER'S CHURCH, CavAddison's hymns), we add the following, from Mr. Miller's BRIDGE. — Above the east window on the gable Singers and Songs of the Church (third edit., p. 124,
end of this church are two large iron keys welded Longmans, 1869) : “The claim to two of Addison's hymns [the two named above) for Andrew Marvell, put forth by
together cross-ways, the handles forming rests on Captain Thompson in an edition of Marvell's Works, the gable, and the wards pointing upwards trans1776, having been recently revived, we have examined | versely. St. Peter's is said to be more than 700 the correspondence on the subject in the Gentleman's years old. Is there any other known instance of Magazine at that time, and are convinced that the the keys being thus placed ?
J. E. T. external evidence is not sufficient to maintain his claim, and that the internal evidence is entirely against it.”]
Cambridge. PORTRAITS OF CHARLES II. AND CROMWELL.--
NATURALIZATION.- Can any of your readers At Boscobel House, which was, as I suppose every
inform me if, during the seventeenth century, an
official register was kept of foreigners who were body knows, the scene of Charles II.'s escape from his pursuers in the oak tree and in various secret
naturalized as English citizens? I wish to trace hiding-places, there is, over the fireplace in the
the pedigree of a family settled in Worcestershire. large dining-room, a very fine portrait of Charles
F.R.S.A. (Scot.). II., evidently taken whilst he was in the prime of GEORGE GARROW: Mrs. SELINA UPTON.-I life. It is a half-length, and the monarch has on have before me a MS. vol. of poems, said to be his regal robes. In the oratory, which leads out written by George Garrow, never printed, and to of the dining-room, there is a picture of Cromwell, be copied in part by Mrs. Selina Upton. Ther very much inferior, in point of execution, to that were written about thirty years ago in India, and of the king. This also is a half-length, and in it contain many allusions to the manners, &c., of the Protector wears a coat of mail. Can any that country. The MS. is in two different bandreader tell me, or give me any information by writings. I desire to obtain information concernwhich I may find out for myself, who were the ing both author and scribe.
FRAXINUS. respective painters of these pictures? I do not think there is a doubt that the portrait of the THOMAS HARRIS, 1739-1820.- I should be much king is an original, but I am inclined to think obliged if any correspondent could kindly enlighten the Cromwell a copy.
me as to the parentage of Thomas Harris (born 'J. PENDEREL BRODHURST. 1739, died 1820), the celebrated lessee of Covent Wolverhampton.
C. S. HARRIS.
THE GREAT WATERFALLS OF THE WORLD.-I Banks FAMILY.-Can any of my English cousins shall be much obliged if you can give me anythrow light on the ancestry of Richard Banks, who information, either through the medium of your was at York, Me., in 1649 ? The smallest bint columns or by reference, respecting the most will be acceptable, and aid me greatly in a history celebrated waterfalls, of which I am collecting of the Banks family of America, for which I ani descriptions and statistics. Most geographical gathering material. It is thought that he came writers appear to have dealt with the subject very I from Warwickshire. I should be pleased to corresuperficially, and the table of thirty celebrated spond with some one on the matter. waterfalls in the Universai Geography (Relig.
CHARLES E. Banks. Tract Soc., 1876) is very inaccurate in its statistics, | 111, Lincoln Street, Portland, Me., U.S. A.
THE ARMS BORNE BY JOHN ABEL WALTER, OF
“Pour oil upon the troubled waters.” BUSBRIDGE.-I should feel very greatly obliged |
'J. C. J. by receiving information with regard to the arms
On the fly-leaf of a copy of The True Prophecies of
Nostradamus (edit. Garencières, 1672) is written :-“ Ann borne by John Abel Walter, of Busbridge, in the
Charlton, Novemb? ye 27th, 1697”; and beneath, in the county of Surrey. He represented that county in |
same handwrit Parliament for many years, and died, I believe, in
"Old prophecies foretell our fall at hand, the latter half of the last century. I have always When bearded men in floating castles land." understood that he bore, Arg., guttée de sang, two Can any one tell the author of the above couplet or swords in saltire, over all a lion rampant sa., but what “old prophecies " are referred to? should much like this confirmed. D. A. W.
Who was the author of the Oriel grace-cup song? On LALLY TOLLENDALE, MARQUIS AND COUNT. the 15th of June, 1826, it was sung at the college. The Who is the present representative of this family?
antative of this fomily first verse runs thus :I saw Madame de Lally Tollendale, the widow of
“ Exultet mater Oriel in imis penetralibus,
Nunc tempus honestissimis vacare Saturnalibus ; Marquis de Lally Tollendale, in 1848, then an old
Nunc versibus canendum est Latinis et Ionicis, woman. When did she die, and where, and to Nunc audiendum vatibus, ut mihi, macaronicis : whom did she bequeath the historic souvenirs of
Sing, then, her husband ?
All true men,
In sæcula sæculorum.
0. C. Yorkshire (crest, a stag's head ; arms, Vert, three stags trippant) descended from a common ancestor
In what work is A Dialogue between Two Shepherds to
incestor be found ? It was written some time in the last century, with the house of Buccleuch ? Where can I find
ne nouse of Duccleuch Where Can I ma and commences thus:a pedigree and full particulars about the family?. « Come, Peregot, my lad, why stand you here,
Thus leaning on your crook and full of care ?
| The Dialogue is signed “Dodd.” W. WINTERS. Sir David OwEN.--Owen Tudor, the grandfather of King Henry VII., left a natural son thus AUTHORS OF Books WANTED. — called. I believe his descendants were located
| Who is the author of The Christian (Economy: transsomewhere in Sussex or Kent. I want to know lated from the original Greek of an old Manuscript found something about them, and if any exist to this day. in the Island of Patmos, Burslem, printed by I. Tre
W. F. gortha, pp. 140? It is apparently such a work in a reli
gious as Dodsley's Economy of Human Life is in a moral “ PINDER."- What is the meaning of the word point of view.
ED. MARSHALL. "pinder," as applied to a man in charge of “com- | Is the author known of a book called Self- Formation ; mon” lands as in the borough of Cambridge ? or, the History of an Individual Mind, by a Fellow of a
S. N. College ? In Half-Hours with the Best Authors, published
by Charles Knight in 1850, vol. ii. p. 127, is an extract WHITTLESEA MERE.-I have seen a map of from it, prefaced by the remark that “the name of the this mere, printed upon white satin. The map,
author is known in some literary circles," and that "it published by John Bodger, dated May 1, 1786, is
was communicated in professional confidence to the
editor of llalt - Hours." It is further added that since entitled, Chart of the Beautiful Fishery, or Whittle the publication of the first edition of “Half Hours the sea Mere, in the County of Huntingdon. This author of Self-Formation has died." The extract given map has been a long time in the possession of the is headed, “ It will never do to be Idle," and the scene of family, who received it from another. therefore the it is laid at Cherry Hinton, near Cambridge. object for which it was so printed is lost. Can
John PICKFORD, M.A. any reader suggest it? Is it a sort of “proof im
Who is the author of Wanderings of a Pilgrim in
search of the Picturesque during four-and-twenty Years in pression”? and is it unique? It is in good pre- the East, with Revelations of Life in the Zenana, 2 vols., servation, and might be of interest locally.
large 8vo., London, 1850, published by Richardson? W. PAPWORTH.
NEPHRITE. GABRIEL FAERNO.--I have a book entitled :
Is it known who wrote Searchings of the Heart, Seeley, | 1850?
J. MANUEL. “Fables in English and French Verse, | Translated from the Original Latin of Gabriel Faerno. With One Hundred Copper Plates. | London, | Printed for
A SOCIETY FOR THE PUBLICATION OF Who was the translator ? John Craggs.
CHURCH REGISTERS. Gateshead.
(5th S. vi. 484 ; vii. 9.) AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED.
Having recently had occasion to consult the “I know naught but that heart's faith shall not part muniment room of Lincoln Cathedral, I am in from heart.”
J. R. | a position to say that Mr. LODOWICK's description
of it is as contrary to its present condition as
"... rouse the heart and lead the will words could possibly make it. Enormous labour
By a bright ladder to the world above." has been expended by the Rev. Canon J. F. For my own part, notwithstanding his excellent Wickenden in the classification, &c., of all the intentions, I should be inclined to class the man early documents and charters of this peculiarly who could gravely propose to sweep out the rich collection. I have some experience of the archives from Lincoln Cathedral (even with the condition of chapter and other corporate archives, intention of docketing them in iron pigeon-holes and I have no hesitation in saying that the ar- in “a comfortable room” in Fetter Lane) with rangements at Lincoln are the most admirable and those who, two centuries ago, stripped the same perfect of their kind. The suggestion that the building of its brasses. There would, of course, Oxford pre-Reformation records could be easily be a considerable difference in the two actions, but separated and removed from those at Lincoln it would only be a difference of degree. Now, seems to me more than doubtful, and could not however, when the policy of dispersing our cenhave been made by any one acquainted with the tralized fine art collections throughout the pronature of many of these documents. To do so vinces is making such rapid progress, I cannot would involve the complete mutilation of nume-conceive that the centralization of archives will rous early chartularies that are engrossed on each meet with much favour. side of the parchment. But perhaps your corre-l By all means let every care be taken to see that spondent may refer to the episcopal registers of those who have the custody of important docuthe ancient see of Lincoln, which I have not con-ments do their duty. Could not the powers of sulted; yet, if these were kept like those of various the existing Historic MSS. Commission be exother sees, such a separation would be still more tended, so as to include a report on all capitular, impossible, for the institutions and other episcopal episcopal, corporation, and county archives? And acts relative to particular benefices are not, as a | then, in cases where it was necessary, might not rule, so classified as to make the abduction of grants be made hy the Ecclesiastical Commisa portion feasible without destroying the whole. sioners, or by the Treasury, towards their efficient It seems probable that Derbyshire will this year arrangement, making all due provision for public obtain a bishop of its own, but that portion of the access ? Lichfield episcopal registers (which are nearly per- With regard to parish registers, an extensive fect from the close of the thirteenth century down- acquaintance with them in Derbyshire and other wards) pertaining to this county could not be counties obliges me to admit that much of what is separated by any other process than transcribing. said of their custody is true. I believe that, in the
The importance of preserving and giving con- majority of cases, no more admirable or jealous ditional access to historic documents, both secular custodians could be found than the parish clergy, and ecclesiastical, appears now to be for the most but then in this, as in all cases, provision should part fully recognized by those in whose charge be made against the heedless minority. During they remain. I may mention that the ancient the present century the old register of Hartington, capitular archives of Lichfield are passing through Derbyshire, from 1554 to 1610, has been lost, and the capable hands of Bishop Hobhouse, and the in two other parishes in the county, to my own county records of Derbyshire are being most knowledge, the old registers have been grievously thoroughly and laboriously classified by C. R. mutilated within the last ten years. Only last Colvile, Esq., the ex-High-Sheriff. As a pro- year I saw two instances of the value put upon revincial antiquary, I desire to enter a most earnest gisters in certain parishes (I give the editor the protest against the centralization of all documents names of all I mention). In one case, I found the in London. The warehousing of all registers and registers-dating back to 1538–in the clerk's other local documents, in one central storehouse, house, and the particular volume to which I wished would entail additional trouble and expense on | to refer on a small table close to the fire in his nine out of ten persons desirous of consulting such cottage, the leaves being propped open by a halfdocuments for any practical or useful purpose. consumed pot of beer and a short pipe, the ashes Moreover, the true spirit of archæology, apart from in which were still warm, as the clerk had been professional book-making, would be sadly thwarted suddenly called off from the copying of an entry. by the adoption of any such proposal. The student The place in which the registers were kept was a who might have to look for some ancient church small cupboard, destitute of a lock, and not two document in a narrow lane of the City, instead of feet distant from the fireplace. In the other case within the very building to which it pertained, as the registers were kept in the vestry ; but the vestry in the muniment room over the Galilee porch of was and is used as a day school, and not only as a Lincoln Cathedral, would miss all the collateral day school, but as a mid-day refreshment room for associations that give life and reality to the faded those scholars who come from a distance. On one parchment before him, to say nothing of those occasion I saw a lad of a cleanly disposition, preinstincts that
paratory to attacking an apple, wipe his knife, with
which he had been cutting his bread and bacon, Lord Romilly's laudable plan of bringing all the between the parchment leaves of one of the old old registers to London. But there is not the parish registers that was lying uncared for on the least appearance of this being done, and therefore absent master's desk. Something, then, should I offered my suggestions for their publication. I be done to ensure the due care of these registers. think, too, even if the registers were in London, as I should be very loath to see them removed from proposed, and accessible at fixed hours to those their own parishes, and cannot help thinking that with whom such researches are a profession and not a penalty attaching to neglect to keep them within merely an enchanting relaxation from daily busia fire-proof safe would be sufficient. But if this ness, that the annual issue of two or three register should not suffice, surely it would be far preferable volumes would be none the less desirable and for the early registers of each archdeaconry, county, welcome. or possibly diocese, to be gathered together, rather Sir John MACLEAN speaks, alas ! too truly, than have them deposited in any central pan- | when he says that “in many parish registers technicon, liable to the destruction of a single there is not one entry in a hundred that one person conflagration, and only accessible to travelled or in a hundred thousand, or one genealogist in a' moneyed antiquaries. I believe, however, that a hundred, would care an iota about." Still, I would very brief Bill, which would be amply sufficient to chance it that each register would contain many secure the careful guardianship of our parish re-entries interesting to every genealogist. For gisters, could easily be drafted, and readily made myself, I may remark that I never yet examined a law. Until such a scheme has been tried and register in which I did not find some entry which proved a failure, I sincerely hope that local archæo- would have been worth ten shillings to me-about logists will vigorously resist all efforts to deprive the price each volume will cost us if we issue two our village churches of those parish annals which a year. it is now the rule and not the exception to value I certainly would not confine the provincial puband cherish. MR. LODOWICK says that strong proof lications to one district or county. Nevertheless, will be obtained from early church documents with Sir JOHN MACLEAN, I think it would be " that those who possessed large territories volun- most desirable to first print, as far as possible, the tarily granted in perpetuity lands and tithes to the London registers. In a receipt for dressing hare, ministers of religion who ministered in holy things Mrs. Glasse's cookery-book, tradition tells us, to the people of their estates." This is somewhat wisely said, “first catch your hare.” Similarly, beside the question, and involves a topic perhaps having obtained the sanction of the clergyman, I too polemical for “ N. & Q.," but I am sure I shall propose we should commence with one of what I be permitted to say in reply that, though I have a may term the great “marrying” churches, so as large acquaintance with the earliest extant church to make our first volume generally interesting. charters, I have never seen or heard of a single one But still more important and necessary would it that would corroborate such an assertion, so far as be for us to pay the parties in whose charge tithes are concerned. Landed proprietors did not they are for the loan of all existing Gretna Green give tithes to the churches on their estates, for registers, making clear to their owners that certithat would have been a work of supererogation, fied copies would still be required as hitherto, and as the law of the land compelled them or their therefore no loss would be entailed by their publitenants to pay them. But they possessed the cation. As for the provincial registers, I suggest power of alienating the greater part of these tithes that those of the cathedrals of England, which will to distant monastic and other establishments. surely be of general interest, be first given to the Hence the people of their estates” frequently world. The Deans and Chapters of Westminster, suffered great spiritual privations, and this was so York, and Durham have already, with that disseriously the case in the Peak in the thirteenth interestedness and intelligence which should discentury that it gave rise to the interference of the tinguish the most learned and important bodies in Metropolitan. The gift of lands was in almost all the world, permitted their registers to be pubcases coupled with services that could not be per- lished. Why not follow with St. Paul's and formed by the Reformed Church, and hence the Canterbury? alienation into secular hands of the chantry and Of course, I never contemplated printing every other like endowments. J. CHARLES Cox. register in England and Wales. I merely think
that half a loaf is better than no bread. My plan, I gather from the many private letters I have I am assured, would induce many private persons received (and I here return my hearty thanks for to print registers by subscription, or even at their the offers of support they all contain) that the own cost. Since I first mooted this among my general opinion is that I propose a scheme of great friends, one of them already has undertaken to magnitude and attended with many difficulties. print the entire registers of one of the largest Sik JOHN MACLEAN, MR. LODOWICK, and Mr. parishes in the very important county from which Bower. have pointed to, as more practicable, I write. I observe, too, advertised every month