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azure, charged with three leopards' faces or; being the arms of Chamberlain, of which family also the ostrich and key is the crest: so that this coat is a combination of the two coats of Heming and Chamberlin.'. H. S. G. WOLFE, GARDENER TO HENRY VIII. (3rd S. v. 194.)—The following occurs amongst the month's wages in October, 2 Edw. VI., paid by Sir William Cavendish, Knt., Treasurer of the King's Chamber:

"Item, to sir John Wulfe, preist, maker and deviser of the Kinge's herbors and plantes of grafts, xx viijd."Trevelyan Papers, ii. 15.

My attention was drawn to this entry shortly after I had dispatched my query, which it seems completely to answer except as regards the date, 1524, named by Cole. S. Y. R. ARMS OF WILLIAMS (3rd S. v. 175.)- I do not think R. P. W. is correct in placing a query to these bearings. Saxons' or Englishmen's heads is right. There is some legend connected with the arms, which I cannot exactly call to mind.

H. S. G.

EPIGRAM ON INFANCY (3rd S. v. 195.) - The translation of the beautiful epigram from the Arabic, by Sir William Jones, is cited by Whately, in his Rhetoric, as an example of perfect antithesis (part III. chap. ii. § 14). There is another version of it, but not nearly so good, in the Anthologia Oxoniensis, attributed to Carlyle, which I transcribe:

"When born, in tears we saw thee drowned,
Whilst thy assembled friends around
With smiles their joy confest:

So live that in thy latest hour
We may the floods of sorrow pour,
And thou in smiles be drest."

From the Arabic, p. 18. The following translation into Latin verse, from the pen of Lord Grenville, accompanies it :

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This, according to a note in Holden's Foliorum Silvula, part 1. p. 521, third ed., 1862, is a translation from the Arabic. Reference is there made to Carlyle (J. D.), Specimens of Arabian Poetry, p. 80. Carlyle was Professor of Arabic at Cambridge from 1795 to 1804. P. J. F. GANTILLON.

TRANSLATORS OF TERENCE: JAMES PRENDEVILLE (3rd S. v. 117.)-James Prendeville supplied a part of the descriptions and illustrations to Mr. Tyrrell's Catalogue of the Poniatowski Gems, London, 1841, 4to. JOSEPH RIX, M.D.

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MOTTO FOR BURTON-UPON-TRENT WATER COMPANY. As no one has replied to this query (3rd S. v. 116), let me suggest from Horace, Epist. i. 1, 52: 66 Argentum auro vilius." P. J. F. GANTILLON. The following mottoes appear to me appropriate, though they do not convey the precise ideas suggested in the above communication:"Opitulatu alitur spes."-Anon.

"Formidatis auxiliatur aquis."-Ovid, Ep. ex Ponto, lib. i. ep. 3.

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"Succurrere saluti fortunisque communibus.". Cic. Pro Rab., cap. i.

"Parcitati beneficium ministrat luxuria."- Palladius, lib. i. cap. xxvi.

Should any one of these be adopted, I hope the fact will be notified in "N. & Q." F. C. H.

SIR JOHN MOORE'S MONUMENT (3rd S. v. 169.)Borrow, speaking evidently from actual observation, says:

"There is a small battery of the old town which fronts the east, and whose wall is washed by the waters of the bay. It is a sweet spot, and the prospect which opens from it is extensive. The battery itself may be about eighty yards square; some young trees are springing up about it, and it is a rather favourite resort of the people of Coruña.

"In the centre of this battery stands the tomb of Moore, built by the chivalrous French, in commemoration of the fall of their heroic antagonist. It is oblong, and surmounted by a slab; and on either side bears one of the simple and sublime epitaphs for which our rivals are celebrated, and which stand in such powerful contrast with the bloated and bombastic inscriptions which deform the walls of Westminster Abbey:

JOHN MOORE,

LEADER OF THE ENGLISH ARMIES,
SLAIN IN BATTLE,
1809.'

"The tomb itself is of marble, and around it is a quadrangular wall, breast high, of rough Gallegan marble; close to each corner rises from the earth the breech of an immense brass cannon, intended to keep the wall compact and close. These outer erections are, however, not the work of the French, but of the English government." The Bible in Spain, c. 26, p. 155, edit. of 1849.

Borrow may have been misinformed as to the persons by whom the monument was erected;

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FAMILY OF DE SCARTH, OR DE SCARR (3rd S. v. 134.)-J. S. D. will find an account of the discovery of the monumental stone of Skartha, the friend of Swein, with an engraving of the stone, in one of the numbers of the Illustrated London News for April or May, 1858. I am sorry I cannot refer him to the exact number, but I am almost certain the date is somewhere about the time I mention. R. S. T.

POSTERITY OF THE EMPEROR CHARLEMAGNE (3rd S. v. 134.)- The descent of the House of Kingsale is commonly said to be as follows:Charles, Duke of Lorraine, last male descendant of the Carlovingian Kings of France. His son, Wigerius; his son, Baldwin Teutonicus; his sons1. Nicholas, from whom the Houses of Warrenne and Mortimer.

5. Robert de Courcey.

John, Baron of Kingsale, was fourth in descent from Robert, son of the Robert de Courcey abovementioned.

the churches of France and Ireland. He assures me that the song, as well as the hymn, are commonly known in Ireland, and seems disposed to wonder that any question should have been asked on the subject. However, I, as an English Protestant, must confess, that before the present occasion I never heard of either the hymn or the song. Robert Dillon Browne died at the age of thirty-nine, just as he had obtained an appointment to a post in one of the colonies. When living he was, as is well known, an important joint in O'Connell's "flexible tail." W. D.

RUTHVEN, EARL OF FORTH AND BRENTFORD.Your correspondent J. M. seems to have read the articles respecting Patrick Ruthven (2nd S. ii. 101, 261) through the wrong spectacles. He writes as if the letter of Gustavus Adolphus, printed in the first of those articles, had been presumed to apply to the Earl of Forth and Brentford. Upon reference a second time to the article in question, he will find that this was not so. The letter was treated, and I think rightly treated, as relating to Patrick Ruthven, son of John, the third Earl of Gowrie.

Again, with reference to the second articlethat contributed by myself on the Ladies' Cabinet-J. M. is mistaken in supposing that "it was conjectured" in that article that the "Lord Ruth

But this Charles, or Hugh, is not named by Anderson (Royal Genealogies) among the children of Charles, Duke of Lorraine. Mézéray says, speak-ven," of the Ladies' Cabinet, was "Earl William," ing of the latter

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seconde fut Agnes fille de Hebert Comte de Troye, dont prouindrent deux fils durant qu'il fut en prison à Orleans, Hugues et Louys, qui se retirerent vers l'Empereur. Ce dernier fut Landgraue de Hesse mais à vray dire, ie doute fort des enfans de ce second lict."-Histoire de France, folio, vol. i. p. 371.

HERMENTRUDE.

If HIPPEUS will refer to the pedigree of the Lords of Harewood in Whitaker's Loidis and Elmete, or that of Dixon of Seaton-Carew, in Burke's Royal Descents, he will find that the Barons Kingsale derive from Robert de Courcey, the uncle of the William, who died s. p. The former pedigree will also show him that there were two contemporary Roberts, Lords de Rougemont (first cousins) viz. Robert, the son of John, and Kobert the son of John's brother George, and that the latter had a son William and other issue. This William may have been the progenitor of George Lisle of Compton Domville. John Lord de Rougemont's wife was Matilda (not Elizabeth) de Ferrers.

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R. W. DIXON.

ROBERT DILLON BROWNE, M.P. (3rd S. iii. 369, 479.) I am informed by a friend (an Irish Catholic), that the song which this gentleman used to be fond of repeating is set to the tune of a French hymn to the Virgin Mary, which is in her honour, on a certain day in each year, in sung

the "de facto fourth Earl of Gowrie." It was held, throughout that article, that he was the same Patrick Ruthven, son of the third Earl of Gowrie-the person who was long confined in the Tower, and whose daughter married Vandyke.

If J. M. thinks that he has any reason to find fault with the attribution of the interference of Gustavus Adolphus, or the connection with the facts upon the subject will be very gladly reLadies' Cabinet, to that Patrick Ruthven, any ceived; but if, before he again addresses will be good enough to re-read the articles to you, he which he has alluded, he will perceive that in the first of them there is no allusion to the Earl of Forth; nor in the second to "William, de facto fourth Earl of Gowrie." JOHN BRUCE.

5, Upper Gloucester Street.

PRIVATE PRAYERS FOR THE LAITY (3rd S. v. 193.)-B. H. C. will find in Dr. Hook's Church Dictionary, under the head" Primer," some particulars about forms of prayer for families and private individuals, as set forth by authority. It is, inter alia, there stated that the last Primer which appeared was Dr. (afterwards Bp.) Cosin's "Collection of Private Devotions: in the practice of the Ancient Church, called the Hours of Prayer, as they were after this manner published by authority of Queen Elizabeth, 1560, &c." This Charles I." In the Preface signed by G[erard] was published in 1627 " by command of King

M[oultrie] to "the Primer set forth at large for the use of the Members of the Anglican Church in Family and Private Prayer, in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth," published in 1863 by Masters,

it is stated that "the Primer is the authorised Book of Family and Private Prayer for the Laity of the English Church." And the Editor adds:

"Earlier in the time of its first publication than the Book of Common Prayer, its subsequent editions and revisions run parallel with that Book. The Invocations of the Saints, the Ave Maria,' and other features of the Primer of Henry VIII., disappear from the revised editions of Edward VI. and of Elizabeth. In the reign of Edward a rival Primer of very inferior merit, with fixed lessons for every day in the week, and fixed Psalms in order, struggled into life, and after maintaining a brief and precarious existence alongside of the original Primer, finally died out in Elizabeth's reign, leaving the ground unoccupied to the nobler Book which continued to throw out its editions till superseded by the altered (unhappily altered) versions of later and more private hands. Bishop Cosin's Hours of Prayer, which are based upon the Primer, are well known at the present day. Perhaps a devotional Manual which claims to be not the work of a single divine, nor of a single year, nor of a single edition, but the carefully matured gift of the Fathers of the English Reformation, perfected by the best of all Revisionists use, through many editions in an earnest and learned age, may be welcome to the Faithful of the English Communion. Its intrinsic value has been recognised by the editors of the Parker Society, who published the edition of 1559, together with other documents, with a view to making known the true principles of the English Reformation."

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WILLIAM DUDGEON (3rd S. v. 172.)-This very singular and learned person was a farmer in East Lothian, Haddingtonshire. There was published, in 1765, a 12mo volume of his, which was entitled :

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This quotation is from the Ingoldsby Legends. C. F. S. WARREN.

"God from a beautiful necessity is love in all he doeth." Tupper's Proverbial Philosophy: Of Immortality. E. J. NORMAN.

"AUTHOR OF GOOD, TO THEE I TURN" (3rd S. iv. 353; v. 123.)—In addition to what has already been communicated, in reference to the above hymn, allow me to say that the four stanzas quoted by your last correspondent form, with a few verbal alterations, the last half of a hymn on the "Ignorance of Man," by Merrick. It begins

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HUGH BRANHAM, M.A. (3rd S. v. 212), was instituted to Dovercourt, with the chapel of Harwich, Oct. 7, 1574; and to the rectory of Little Oakley, Essex, Nov. 20, 1579. He also held the rectory of Peldon, in the same county. He died in 1615 (Newcourt's Repertorium, ii. 220, 446, 467). C. H. & THOMPSON COOPer. Cambridge.

REV. CHRISTOPHER RICHARDSON (3rd S. v. 213) was of Trinity College, Cambridge; B.A. 1636-7, M.A. 1640, and it is probable that he had episcopal ordination. C. H. & THOMPSON COOPER. Cambridge.

CAMBRIDGE VILLAGES (3rd S. v. 212.) - In 7 Edw. I. the Papworths are called Papworth Everard and Papworth Anneys (Rotuli Hundredorum, ii. 472, 473). They were, very probably, so denominated after the principal owners at a former period. The prefix of Saint is a silly innovation, certainly introduced since Messrs. Lysons published their account of Cambridgeshire. Indeed the former parish is called Papworth Everard in the Act for its enclosure passed in 1815.

C. H. & THOMPSON COOPER. "EXPOSITION OF ECCLESIASTES, 1680" (2nd S. "Philosophical Works, viz.-The State of the Moraliii. 330.)-George Sykes (Sikes), a mystical CalWorld considered-A Catechism founded upon Experience and Reason-A View of the Necessitarian or Best Scheme-Philosophical Letters concerning the Being and Attributes of God."

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vinist, is supposed to have been the author of the book in question. He also wrote Evangelical Essays towards the Discovery of a Gospel State, 1666. He seems to have been connected in religious opinions with Sir H. Vane, from whose writings he quotes. S. S.

Miscellaneous.

NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC. Diary of Mary, Countess Cowper, Lady of the Bedchamber to the Princess of Wales, 1714-1720. (Murray.) This is one of the most valuable contributions to contemporary history which the curiosity of the present day has yet unearthed. The period of our annals to which it relates is one singularly deficient in similar materials; and the gossiping record which Lady Cowper gives us of the political intrigues, and the etiquette and observances at the court of the First George, is replete alike with information and amusement. The authoress, Mary Clavering, the wife of Lord Chancellor Cowper, was not only an observant, but also an accomplished woman; as is shown by the fact that she was in the habit of translating into French her husband's memorials, that they might be intelligible to his sovereign. And as it is plain she was, as she deserved to be, in the full confidence of her husband the Lord Chancellor, and equally so in that of her royal mistress and the Prince of Wales, she had peculiar opportunities of knowing all that was going on; and the perusal of the present fragment, for we regret to say it is but a fragment, awakens a feeling of deep regret that there seems little hope of recovering the missing portions of this most interesting narrative. Magna Vita S. Hugonis Episcopi Lincolniensis.

From

Manuscripts in the Bodleian Library, Oxford, and the Imperial Library, Paris. Edited by the Rev. James F. Dimock. M.A. Published under the Direction of the Master of the Rolls. (Longman.)

The name of Hugh Bishop of Lincoln still figures in the Calendar of the Church. That he should have won that distinction few will be surprised who read this elaborate biography of a prelate whom the present editor describes as an upright, honest, fearless man-an earnest, holy Christian bishop, adding "that in the whole range of English worthies, few men deserve a higher and holier niche than Bishop Hugh of Lincoln. That he should have built Lincoln Cathedral-that "templum gloriosissimum," as his biographer terms it, is enough to recommend his memory to our architectural friends. But he had far higher claims than this; and the story of his useful life is well told in the narrative before us, the work of one Adam, a Benedictine Monk, which the editor has carefully printed from a Bodleian MS., compared with another in the Imperial Library at Paris. As the Vita S. Hugonis throws considerable light on the history of this country during the period of which it treats, it furnishes many valuable additions to our knowledge of those eventful times. Mr. Dimock has obviously bestowed great care and labour upon the work, for which his previous labours on Hugh of Lincoln had well prepared him, and we have to thank him for a capital Index. Clerical and Parochial Records of Cork, Cloyne, and Ross, taken from Diocesan and Parish Registries, MSS. in the Principal Libraries and Public Offices of Oxford, Dublin, and London; and from Private or Family Papers. By W. Maziere Brady, D.D., Chaplain to the Lord-Lieutenant, and Vicar of Clonfert Cloyne. 3 Vols. 8vo. (Longman.)

The ecclesiastical records of Ireland have of late years attracted the attention of the learned. The succession of all the bishops and cathedral dignitaries, from ancient to modern times, has been duly recorded and preserved in the admirable Fasti Ecclesiæ Hibernica of Archdeacon Cotton; and Dr. Todd, Mr. E. P. Shirley, Mr. Caulfield, and many other scholars, have published works illustrative of the Church. But few attempts have been made, and those few very unimportant, to trace the parochial

clergy of Ireland from the period of the Reformation to the present time, or to extract from her own records the history of the Church. As far as the united Diocese of Cork, Cloyne, and Ross is concerned, this want has now been supplied; and so completely, that in very many parishes the succession of incumbents, for more than two centuries and a half, is complete. In many cases, Dr. Brady has been able to indicate the parentage, birthplace, college matriculation, and University degree of the clergyman; as well as his ordination and clerical appointments, his marriage, issue, and death. To these are sometimes added, his published works, charitable bequests, and genealogical notices. The book is one of great labour and research; and we sincerely trust that this endeavour to "do justice to Ireland" will meet with such general approval as to induce other members of the Irish church to follow the admirable example which Dr. Brady has placed before them.

Icelandic Legends. Collected by Ion Arnason.

Translated

by George E. J. Powell and Eirikur Magnusen. With twenty-eight Illustrations. (Bentley.)

No one who has paid the slightest attention to the character of Icelandic literature will be surprised to hear that the learned librarian of Reykjavick, Mr. Ion Arnason, the Grimm of Iceland, as he has been happily designated, should have succeeded in gathering in an almost inexhaustible store of Popular Legends and Traditions, which are still current in the mouth of the people. From a selection published by him in 1862, the present translators have made a further selection, which they have divided into Stories of Elves, Stories of Trolls, Stories of Ghosts and Goblins, and Miscellaneous Stories. These are extremely well calculated to give an idea of the Folk Lore of Iceland, and are very valuable as materials for a History of Popular Fiction. The illustrations are fanciful and characteristic.

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Notices to Correspondents.

W. J. D. will find a collection of the Poems on Chantrey's Woodcocks in the volume entitled Winged Words on Chantrey's Woodcocks, published by Murray in 1857.

W. F. B. Tennyson's allusion is to DANTE, and to the Inferno, canto v. line 121.

C. W. (Norwich.) "Vaughts in the passage clearly means "Vaults."

JAYDEE. The Historical Register, 25 vols. extending from 1714 to 1738.

T. B. is reminded that there is a letter waiting for him at the Office, 32, Wellington Street.

H. C. A list of the Members of Parliament, temp. Queen Elizabeth, may be found in Willis's Notitia Parliamentaria, 3 vols. 8vo, 1730.--For the derivation of the names of pieces of ordnance consult Falconer's Dictionary of the Marine, edited by Dr. Burney, 4to, 1815, and Vial du Clairbois's Dictionnaire de la Marine, 4to, 3 vols. Paris, 1783-87.

T. W. D. Eight articles on the word Humbug appeared in our First Series.

IOTA. The Rev. Thomas Pentycross, Vicar of St. Mary's, Wallingford, Berks, died Feb. 11, 1808, aged sixty. We cannot find that he published any poetical pieces. See Horace Walpole's character of him in his letter to William Cole, dated July 24, 1776. S. R. Jackson was the author of "The Lament of Napoleon, Misplaced Love, and Minor Poems," 12mo, Lond. 1819: also," Affection's Victim," 12mo.

"NOTES AND QUERIES" is published at noon on Friday, and is also issued in MONTHLY PARTS. The Subscription for STAMPED COPIES for Six Months forwarded direct from the Publisher (including the Halfyearly INDEX) is 118. 4d., which may be paid by Post Office Order, payable at the Strand Post Office, in favour of WILLIAM G. SMITH, 32, WELLINGTON STREET, STRAND, W.C., to whom all CoмMUNICATIONS FOR THE EDITOR should be addressed.

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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 2, 1864.

CONTENTS.-No. 118.

NOTES:-Dinan: Legends and Traditions, 273-Cornish Proverbs, 275- The Library of the Escorial, Spain, 276Curious Mode of taking an Oath in India, 277-What beLatest Yankee Word - Meaning of Hoo-English Wool in 1682 - The Golden Dropsy - Prester-John in the Arms of the See of Chichester- Misapprehension of a TextTitles of Books - Transportation of Muir, 278. QUERIES:-Authors of Hymns - Rev. Edward Bourchier -Chaperon-Sir John de Coningsby - Cowper - John Cranidge, M.A.- De Foe and Dr. Livingstone -Gustave Doré Thomas Fuller-Heather Burning-The Order of Victoria and Albert - Parietines - Parson Chaff "Rob Roy"-A Gentleman's Signet "Thou art like unto like, as the Devil said to the Collier" - Turner's "Miscellanea Curiosa"- Value of Money, 30 Edw. III.— -Professor Wilson's Father, 280.

came of Voltaire's Remains? Ib.- Swift and Hughes

QUERIES WITH ANSWERS:-John Lund of Pontefract, a
Humorous Poet - Preface to the Bible-Goose Intentos
Charles Bailley-Wilde's Nameless Poem-Ursula,
Lady Althain-Bentinck Family, 282.
REPLIES:- Beau Wilson, 284-Sir John Verdon and his
Heirs, 285-The Earth a living Creature, 286-Colkitto
and Galasp, 287 - Haydn's Canzonets · Inchgaw
Captain James Gifford and Admiral Gifford - Erroneous
Monumental Inscriptions in Bristol - Wildmore and
Whitimore-Illegitimate Children of Charles II. - Lead-
ing Apes in Hell - Pamphlet - Ancestor Worship-Veri-
fying Quotations: Traditions, &c.
Lord-Sancroft - Trust and Trusty, 288.
Notes on Books, &c.

Notes.

Portraits of Our

DINAN: LEGENDS AND TRADITIONS.

To one who has passed seventeen years in London-in the very heart and centre of life, of politics, commerce, science, literature, and the fine arts, and who has now been vegetating for some time in the remote, torpid, and medieval ville of Dinan, it is alike curious and amusing to observe what semblance there is in the facts that are about the same period agitating the metropolis of the universe and this decayed fortress of the Plantagenets. Whilst the Londoners are aghast at the invasion of their parks, squares, and river by multitudinous railways, the Dinanese are making a desperate struggle to baffle an enterprising Maire, who seeks to light their mansions with gas, to make smooth their streets with flagged pathways, to pull down tottering fabrics, the contemporaries of Duguesclin, and-worst of all innovations to connect their town with the only railway that has yet passed over the borders of ancient Brittany.

The aggrieved Londoners have The Times to protect them from the assaults of those modern Goths the railway navigators; but the adherents to ancient times and by-gone manners have no hope of finding an advocate, unless it be in the columns of Notes and Queries.

The Dinanese desire to preserve their ancient town, with all its quaint old buildings-to keep it

as a gem of antiquity in a land that is strewed over with antiquities. They believe that so long as it is left undisturbed in its antiquated form, so long will it be peculiarly attractive to those who find charms in what is old, and beauties in what is picturesque. Whether or not you can fully sympathise with the Dinanese in their desire to repel the first advances towards modernising their town, yet your readers will, I am sure, feel an interest whilst glancing over a brief recapitulation of the various legends and traditions that are connected with Dinan, and the arrondissement to which it gives its name.

Of the Breton warriors who took part in the battle of Hastings, and were richly rewarded by the Conqueror were the Counts of Leon and Porhuet, the Sires of Dinan, Gael, Fougeres, and Chateaugiron; and, amongst those attracted to the Court of William by the fame of his munificence, and who believed that "lands in England were to be had for the asking," mention is made by the Chroniclers of a certain Seigneur William de Cognisby (not Coningsby), who came all the way from the lowest end of Lower Brittany, and brought with him (as helps to the Norman army), his old wife "Tifanie," his servant girl " Manfa,' and his dog "Hardi-gras"! Connected with the annals of Dinan are the names of some of the most illustrious kings of England - as well as that of the most unfortunate of them-the luckless James II. Passing from the town, its history, encircled walls, gates, tower, and ancient tournament-place, we come first to Pleudihen, in which there is a Druidical monument, that the honest people of the neighbourhood firmly believe to be

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a work of enchantment," placed on the very spot in which it now stands by the hands of fairies! In the commune of St. Helen, the traveller is made acquainted with one of the many parishes in Brittany named after Irish saints. This particular parish derives, it is said, its designation from a family of ten Irish saints seven brothers and three sisters who landed at the mouth of the Rance in the reign of King Clovis, and edified the whole country by their piety and miracles. Of the commune of Aucanleuc the most remarkable thing to be told is that it originated a species of doggrell, far more indicative of a " Feenian" passion for fighting with a shillelagh than of poetical talent. Here is a specimen of what are called "The Vespers of Aucanleuc":

"Première voix. Un bâton, deux bâtons, trois batons;

Si j'avais encore un bâton, cela ferait quatre bâtons! Deuxième voix. Quatre bâtons, cinq bâtons, six bâtons; Si j'avais encore un bâton, cela ferait sept bâtons! Troisième voix. Sept bâtons, huit bâtons, neuf bâtons; Si j'avais encore un bâton, cela ferait dix bâtons!

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The commune of St. Carné is called after a Breton saint, who was said to be the uncle of St.

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